Is it unreasonable to think that perhaps kyles thoughts of the all white alliance were potentially racist but ultimately he never acted on it so is it not possible he did reflect on what’s wrong with that and change his mind?
Was he not up Terrance’s ass only for the sole fact he was HOH? I mean Kyle genuinely needs to work on a lot after this season he really was weird with things he said even when he called Turner homeless and made jokes like calling Joseph a scumbag..
I hope so! I’m hoping he comes back, faces the group, apologizes and shares a desire to want to grow from this. Unfortunately, he ran to the DR and hasn’t came out. Not sure if that answers your question. We all make mistakes. He’s an almost 30 year-old man. He has such a great platform to talk about where he was at and where he wants to go.
Taylor has been labeled a racist by thousands on the Facebook crowds for weeks because of her comments getting aired about Jasmine. Is her life ruined?
If Kyle leaves he is taking the easy way out. We all make mistakes and he could have used this week to try and repair what he broke. His game is probably unsalvageable, but he could show that he cares about the message he’s out there and how hurtful and wrong it was. Running away postpones those conversations and will maybe put some of the houseguests in a position to not want to speak to him BECAUSE he ran away.
I will admit: I was one of the naysayers who thought the season would turn into a boring LO steamroll with the Taylor HOH. Every day I am grateful that I was very, very wrong.
Production should also be blamed for this. Improve casting process. Psychological & social media screening etc should be done. They should even out the POC for each season. It’s not difficult to add more asians, latinos and natives etc.
I mean….it’s reality television….which has been based on drama just like this since the beginning of the genre. Production does this on purpose for the drama that it will construe not only on the show but with the public. Bad publicity is still publicity at the end of the day.
People keep acting like M/B ruined Kyle's life but they only told the current houseguest what was said. The rest of us already knew. It has been a hot topic for weeks now. He was going to come out of this house with an angry mob ready and waiting either way
This is true. Also, the POC in the house — the actual subjects of his comments — should be the ones to determine how problematic or ignorant the comments were.
I think a person's character should be judged less by their mistakes, but more on how they learn from them and right their wrongs. Kyle needs to be having discussions with the other HGs instead of running away.
Michael's explanation that he waited until after DyreFest because he really wished that Kyle would be gone so they wouldn't have to worry about it is one of the bad parts of his explanation in my opinion. He wanted Joseph gone more than Kyle. It feels like he is only saying that now as an excuse to cover his tracks and comes across as really dishonest.
I didn't hear Michael say that, was it in HoH room? I heard Brittany say she hoped he might not come back as it would be easier. Which I thought was just another stupid Brittany keep your mouth shut moment.
man is playing like Steve and Vanessa from BB17 combined. Might have made too many big moves too soon tho, might be a late game Ronnie Talbott if the house realizes he's playing circles around them.
Yeah but Aligning with someone you knew was racist to better yourself isn't exactly being an Ally to others. I think they shouldn't have sat on it this long. But they are in a better spot now so who am I to say?
Talk it out like Kaysar and James did...would love to see some real dialog. Let Monte, Taylor,and Terrance air their feelings on it while every one else shuts up( looking at you Brit). Growth could come out of it, for them and the fan base ( Kaysar and James are good friends)
All the people here wanting him to go back and face the music just want more time to hate in every little thing he does. No apology will suffice the hungry masses when they’re this fired up.
Taylor spent weeks being ostracized by the entire house, was called a bitch, cockroach, ho, not a girl’s girl, a girl who walks around “with her pussy out,”and didn’t crack. I just can’t muster the tears here.
"why would Michael ruin Kyle's outside life like this" hello??? Kyle already "ruined" his outside life, the comments he made weeks ago made him trend on Twitter, they were featured in the EPISODES, literally the only people who didn't know were the houseguests
Will BB continue to be sustainable if two people walk this season? I know they make it hard for players by making them pay back their flights and some expenses. And yes no one should be forced to stay, but two walks would just be crazy….
Makes for great TV, imo. Their viewership is going to grow because of this. They will never have trouble finding people wanting their moment of fame or infamy.
If Kyle really did quit, the last time we saw him was when he entered the DR and Taylor exited at the same time directly to the left of him,,, poetic if you ask me
If Kyle really did walk...well, he has a lot of growing up to do. He could have easily explained his actions and recovered his reputation, if not his game. There was easily room to own up to what he did and move on from it, but he (seemingly) chose to just run away instead.
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Is it unreasonable to think that perhaps kyles thoughts of the all white alliance were potentially racist but ultimately he never acted on it so is it not possible he did reflect on what’s wrong with that and change his mind?
Was he not up Terrance’s ass only for the sole fact he was HOH? I mean Kyle genuinely needs to work on a lot after this season he really was weird with things he said even when he called Turner homeless and made jokes like calling Joseph a scumbag..
I hope so! I’m hoping he comes back, faces the group, apologizes and shares a desire to want to grow from this. Unfortunately, he ran to the DR and hasn’t came out. Not sure if that answers your question. We all make mistakes. He’s an almost 30 year-old man. He has such a great platform to talk about where he was at and where he wants to go.
Are we going for 18k??
YES
I love how everyone is still on this thread and not the new one 🤣🤣 I feel at home on this thread I don’t wanna leave
So much history has been made
Taylor has been labeled a racist by thousands on the Facebook crowds for weeks because of her comments getting aired about Jasmine. Is her life ruined?
Taylor was labeled a so called racist by white people
Kyle looks weird without his glasses.
The amount of comments is WILD
If Kyle leaves he is taking the easy way out. We all make mistakes and he could have used this week to try and repair what he broke. His game is probably unsalvageable, but he could show that he cares about the message he’s out there and how hurtful and wrong it was. Running away postpones those conversations and will maybe put some of the houseguests in a position to not want to speak to him BECAUSE he ran away.
What did he do???
Where is Ja Rule and how does he feel about Kyles actions?
i feel he might have a strongly worded italian restaurant commercial for kyle when he gets out
SOMEBODY CALL JA!
Watching the episode I didn’t realize how close Kyle was to winning HOH can you guys imagine how different a week it would be.
Would he still self evicts if he had won? Kinda crazy to think about
I forgot the feeds were supposed to suck with out fake elvis
I will admit: I was one of the naysayers who thought the season would turn into a boring LO steamroll with the Taylor HOH. Every day I am grateful that I was very, very wrong.
I think a group discussion would have been better for everyone in the house
And a house meeting would've been the cherry on top of the chaos.
Production should also be blamed for this. Improve casting process. Psychological & social media screening etc should be done. They should even out the POC for each season. It’s not difficult to add more asians, latinos and natives etc.
I mean….it’s reality television….which has been based on drama just like this since the beginning of the genre. Production does this on purpose for the drama that it will construe not only on the show but with the public. Bad publicity is still publicity at the end of the day.
While I definitely would like to see more Non-Black POC in our casts, Kyle grouped all the POC together, not just the Black players.
the more comments on this thread the more bad takes there are lmao
At least it contributes to the comment count? 😅
People keep acting like M/B ruined Kyle's life but they only told the current houseguest what was said. The rest of us already knew. It has been a hot topic for weeks now. He was going to come out of this house with an angry mob ready and waiting either way
Like my mama said, “nothing to hide, nothing to fear.” Kyle seems to be seeing the consequences of his game.
I still don't know what it is that Kyle said.
This is true. Also, the POC in the house — the actual subjects of his comments — should be the ones to determine how problematic or ignorant the comments were.
Great work everyone! Legendary thread for some legendary feeds!
I think a person's character should be judged less by their mistakes, but more on how they learn from them and right their wrongs. Kyle needs to be having discussions with the other HGs instead of running away.
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Michael's explanation that he waited until after DyreFest because he really wished that Kyle would be gone so they wouldn't have to worry about it is one of the bad parts of his explanation in my opinion. He wanted Joseph gone more than Kyle. It feels like he is only saying that now as an excuse to cover his tracks and comes across as really dishonest.
Yeah, it's not like they knew that twist was going to happen so it kind of doesn't make sense.
Agreed, but ultimately what matters to me is that Kyle’s racism got outed to the rest of the house.
I didn't hear Michael say that, was it in HoH room? I heard Brittany say she hoped he might not come back as it would be easier. Which I thought was just another stupid Brittany keep your mouth shut moment.
This! He and Brittany talked all week about how they need Kyle back and wanted Joseph out with no blood on them.
Watching what’s happening to Kyle is the reason i will never apply to be on big brother
ooooh so you admit you're racist
Just don't say prejudiced things?
Obviously there is discussion around timing. But is Michael now a Big Brother legend?
man is playing like Steve and Vanessa from BB17 combined. Might have made too many big moves too soon tho, might be a late game Ronnie Talbott if the house realizes he's playing circles around them.
The biggest knock against was that his gameplay style could be considered boring. Can't say that anymore!
He already was
Yes
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It's so funny that Kyle threatened to quit after berating Indy so much after she did the same thing 😂 Is it disrespectful now Kyle?
Someone else is clearly running Kyle's social media - still completely up in the air whether he's walked or not
I’m okay with how this was handled. M/B May have sat on it, but Kyle was their alliance member. Why throw somebody you’re aligned with under the bus?
Yeah but Aligning with someone you knew was racist to better yourself isn't exactly being an Ally to others. I think they shouldn't have sat on it this long. But they are in a better spot now so who am I to say?
If Michael wins this season where does he rank all time
Pretty damn high
Have to wait and see what happens winner wise and comp wise going forward. Right now he’s prolly 9-13 all time
Pretty high, tbh. Strong comps, smart player, swing for the fucking fences when he needed to. I wouldn't put him top-tier, but second tier
That move to use Kyle to take out Joseph and then turn it back against Kyle... I have Michael (if he wins) in the top third of all US winners.
If Kyle walks I seriously fear for the future of the franchise
True where will this show go if racially charged content isn’t tolerated
How so?
Imagine if Kyle did self evict.. Alyssa's 2 closest people/allies self evicting is wild. Is she the bb black widow?
Damm I didn’t even think about it like that she is truly so iconic and she has had no clue of what’s been going on the whole season
The Curse of Alyssa is going to make for such iconic lore analysis videos in the future
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Record breaking thread
So kyles supposed to go back, apologize, and then sit there while everyone thinks he’s racist for 5 days awkwardly awaiting eviction?
He should go back in, apologize, and then try to learn from his mistake.
Isn’t that what Daniel told Taylor to do
Talk it out like Kaysar and James did...would love to see some real dialog. Let Monte, Taylor,and Terrance air their feelings on it while every one else shuts up( looking at you Brit). Growth could come out of it, for them and the fan base ( Kaysar and James are good friends)
All the people here wanting him to go back and face the music just want more time to hate in every little thing he does. No apology will suffice the hungry masses when they’re this fired up.
I mean, yeah, he should be talking to these people, apologize, listen, learn from this and do better.
I mean he owes monte an apology at the least. His actions toward monte were the worst.
Maybe he could try… a conversation on why he thought that? Give the poc in the game a chance to explain why it’s hurtful? Open a dialogue.
Yes? Except Taylor monte and terrance are pretty nice people and would forgive him and wish him well and growth lol
Redemption arc potential.
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I’m worried as well
Taylor spent weeks being ostracized by the entire house, was called a bitch, cockroach, ho, not a girl’s girl, a girl who walks around “with her pussy out,”and didn’t crack. I just can’t muster the tears here.
Terrence calling the b-word and a hoe
110%
Really
This was crazy.
Michael won veto and chose Violence. If Kyle quits then this is just toooo successful.
I don't feel bad for kyle.
Well we’re definitely in a new era of BB lol
"why would Michael ruin Kyle's outside life like this" hello??? Kyle already "ruined" his outside life, the comments he made weeks ago made him trend on Twitter, they were featured in the EPISODES, literally the only people who didn't know were the houseguests
Exactly! They were gonna find out after the show anyways, like be serious
You speak nothing but cold hard facts
right? people have been saying this all day lmao as if its something someone ELSE is doing to kyle
Kyle makes himself look 10x worse by walking.
Agreed. He should talk to them.
We beat the record on a day with a several hour feed outage lol
Is he gone??
It was a wild afternoon y’all
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Or he could’ve stayed and taken accountability 🤷♂️
if you think this place is a toxic cesspool, then just leave
Or he bounced because he has nothing to say as he knows he did it
You still at it huh?
it wasn't twisted you're just delusional
Will BB continue to be sustainable if two people walk this season? I know they make it hard for players by making them pay back their flights and some expenses. And yes no one should be forced to stay, but two walks would just be crazy….
I wouldn’t pay back shit
Makes for great TV, imo. Their viewership is going to grow because of this. They will never have trouble finding people wanting their moment of fame or infamy.
People walked from CAN8 and the following seasons were incredible
BB will survive
Maybe they'd just have to do better mental health checks & do more even more bias training to prevent what has happened this season? I don't know.
Today was such a fun day, I love this community!
So, let's say Kyle did walk (just hypothetically) - replacement nom would be who?
If there is an eviction then I would imagine that Turner puts up Alyssa. I think Taylor may end up getting evicted, though.
Chile the Kylyssa leaving within the week. Poor Turner losing all his allies ☠️
Will they even have an eviction?
I think so
“I can excuse racism, but waiting a couple weeks to tell someone about it is where I draw the line.” - some of y’all rn
Like be fucking fr😭…
It's possible to see both as problems. It shouldn't take much for Kyle's fans and Michael/Brit's fans to see that this is not an either/or situation.
So if he’s gone, how long do we think feeds will be down?
Y'all think Kyle and Alyssa will last after this? Lol
I think there was a chance if he came back and explained himself but if he walks, it's 1000 percent over
They were never going to last regardless of this controversy.
Poor Alyssa:(
We already know Kyle didn’t last long with Alyssa
Maybe 10 seconds.
Lol no
Doubt lol
Definitely not
no
Went to mow the lawn and the feeds are still down? What they watching in there? Roots?
two self evictions in a season should be the clearest sign to casting that they need to do something different
Production needs to increase their diversity to start.
I still remember Tyler taking a deep breath and blowing over his stack
That was so funny/sad
Hasn’t Kyle threatened to quit a few times now?
He’s a man child
I was here for this record!
Thank you, SNORT_MY_SMEGMA
If Kyle really did quit, the last time we saw him was when he entered the DR and Taylor exited at the same time directly to the left of him,,, poetic if you ask me
WITH THE LAYS
With the Lays in hand lol
expect the unexpected!!
If Kyle really did walk...well, he has a lot of growing up to do. He could have easily explained his actions and recovered his reputation, if not his game. There was easily room to own up to what he did and move on from it, but he (seemingly) chose to just run away instead.
He’s an idiot. Yes, this could have been salvaged with some honesty and remorse. Running away just makes things worse.
How? The entire fanbase has called him a racist for weeks, and they’re pissed he outed the LOs last week.
I love Alyssa tiny room. I'd want my game room to look like this...minus the beer cans pyramid
If Kyle did self evict.. how would Jury votes work with an even number of jury members? Would America get a vote?
Unless they pull a hat trick and we get a third self eviction
Im assuming they’ll do it like they did in S11 (when Chima left). They had an “America’s vote” for the winner.
America would get Kyle’s Jury vote.
America votes, yes.
America gets a vote.