I love how tabata had a plan for Noelle, that's gotta be what I like most about her character, it doesn't feel like he was just remembering he had to do something with her
What made her develop out of her annoyingness to you if you don't mind me asking. Tho her character has had some good development I still find her doing the same types of things she did early on in the series that I found annoying.
I mean when her main competition is uraraka from MHA and nobara who I’m pretty sure hasn’t been having a fun time recently it’s not hard. However she is one of the better developed female leads I’ve ever seen
I mean there's more competition than that, Emma from Promised Neverland, Power and Makima from Chainsaw Man, Nezuko from Demon Slayer, Kohaku from Dr Stone. But is Noel is definitionally fucking up there, she's probably the best one from traditional battle shounen of this generation.
Personally I wouldn't even consider uraraka the "main girl" the story is basically only about izukus journey and his classmates all have about the same importance as each other. Any romance between the two is purely C plot, A plot being Izuku's journey, and B plot being the villains.
Noelle is def one of the best new gen leads. Unfortunately that's not saying much with the competition she has. I do think tabata has done her decently well, but she should have been in the battle with lucifero as well if asta and yuno were.
It's honestly quite sad that I can't think of much competition for her within shonen manga.... besides maybe Chika from world trigger or some of the fairy tail/edens zero gals.
Yeah, especially when it comes to leads, competition is slim, ironically probably the best female characters from most shounen from the new generation were side characters not the main characters/co-leads. Like Uraraka, Nobara, Nezuko, etc, probably wouldn't be my pick as the best female characters in their own show. The only exceptions is probably like Emma from Promised Neverland,
I agree with this most battle shounen female leads pretty average in my opnion, and there are only a handful of really good ones like you Chika from World Trigger who I believe is better than Noelle. If Makima is the female lead for Chainsaw Man I would say that she is better, and Ashido Benio from Twin Star Exorcists is too in my opinion.
A female character that actually gets her own fights and development. Love to see it. Bc has great female characters imo. Love charlote and mereoleona.
Considering the female leads I honestly agree I’ll say her main competitor is prolly Maki from JJK Makima from CSM chainsaw man Nezuko Shinobu and you can sneak in Mitsuri
i think that ururaka’s characterisation has been majorly butchered to become centred around midoriya, like she had so much potential with her drive for her family in the sports carnival and then it just.. went nowhere?
How she was in the beginning made it hard for me to like her for the longest time. I don’t think I really liked her until the Megicula fight, I believe, where she realized her true feelings. Personally, I like the strong, energetic, crazy, confident girls like Meleoleona the best. Noelle really had some great development though.
This post and these comments tell me y’all don’t watch much anime lol I don’t even think of Noelle when I think of good female characters. Go check out Jobless Reincarnation
They think getting a couple fights = good well developed female. She literally confessed her feelings to herself then reverted right back to her normal gimmick
I like jobless reincarnation but none of those characters pop out as much better than Noelle imo. They're better than most shonen female leads for sure though
I just hate how in the last season they decided so sexualize her character, so much so that it’s just weird to watch. They also did that to some of the other female characters
For sure. When we first meet noelle she basically screamed damsel in distress tsundere simp for mc. Although whether she was a Sakura or orhime I couldn’t tell luckily she was neither
Yes, but when the competition is Mikasa and Uraraka, you can be a no personality Sung Jin Woo type character and still be better than both. She's one of the best, but isn't good.
It’s good but could have been better. Didn’t like how nozel fit into this, at first being intentionally cruel and traumatizing to her only for the mom reveal to change his motivations
Maybe it depends on what you consider a "New Gen" battle shounen, but I guess if "New Gen" is all battle shounen manga and anime after 2014 until now I would say this probably true, I personally would pick Makima (Chainsaw Man) over her although I am not sure if she is the female lead of that series.
Noelle is considered one of the best written female characters in Shonen. Not only fans say so, but also many critics. Unfortunately, since the timeskip, she has become more and more sexualized. Since then, 80% of the time she has only been seen in fanservice mode. The many butt-shots during her fight with Vanica/Megicula were just unpleasant. Tabata should be careful not to make her completely ridiculous at the end.
I don't know, I don't like her as a character. It's not that I dislike her, but she is kinda boring. Everything that I like about her Asta does better, and she doesn't have enough cool factor either for me.
Is she though? I mean character development aside she's annoying as fuck, bitchy and jealous. Asta deserves much better. A meme I saw on reddit says"you love tsunderes, I hate bitches. We are not the same"
That’s the point, good character development. personality isn’t as important of a factor this isn’t a romance anime or slice of life. She’s well written for shonen. And being “bitchy” was her defence mechanism from being abused and belittled her entire childhood
I recently watched the ranking of kings which had 2 more compelling and thought provoking female characters who weren't even leads. Lady Miranjo and Queen Hiling blow Noelle out the water, nazuna nanakusa is another female lead who is better imo, ik we all love black clover but to continuously say she's the best of all female characters out of new gen anime and manga is a super strech, it also old y'all should give it a rest.
Ofc this is on the black clover subreddit, everyone would agree. Take this to the anime subreddit, I’m actually curious who most fans think is the best new gen female lead
I love how tabata had a plan for Noelle, that's gotta be what I like most about her character, it doesn't feel like he was just remembering he had to do something with her
He definitely took his time with her development and it paid off really well
Her development was amazing man, she started out really annoying but over time she became such a cool character
I didn’t like her much in the beginning either, glad she got some of the best development ever
I hated her at the beginning, now i have her tattooed on my arm
What made her develop out of her annoyingness to you if you don't mind me asking. Tho her character has had some good development I still find her doing the same types of things she did early on in the series that I found annoying.
I mean when her main competition is uraraka from MHA and nobara who I’m pretty sure hasn’t been having a fun time recently it’s not hard. However she is one of the better developed female leads I’ve ever seen
Nothing special about Uraraka lol
Uraraka kinda sucks. Nobara is an example of what Uraraka should’ve been.
Nobara is great but also probably ______ (?) when she’s around she’s awesome. Uraraka…
I mean there's more competition than that, Emma from Promised Neverland, Power and Makima from Chainsaw Man, Nezuko from Demon Slayer, Kohaku from Dr Stone. But is Noel is definitionally fucking up there, she's probably the best one from traditional battle shounen of this generation.
Was so hyped for nobara. Sassy not useless not even a close to a simp for the a mc. Went out fucking sad tho like literally a L of a charecter
Mha and jjk aren’t the only new gen with good female characters…
Personally I wouldn't even consider uraraka the "main girl" the story is basically only about izukus journey and his classmates all have about the same importance as each other. Any romance between the two is purely C plot, A plot being Izuku's journey, and B plot being the villains.
love her so much 💙
Noelle is def one of the best new gen leads. Unfortunately that's not saying much with the competition she has. I do think tabata has done her decently well, but she should have been in the battle with lucifero as well if asta and yuno were.
True true, we’ll have to see what she does when the manga returns
tbf she did at least get to be the main leader of the team battle against megicula who was the second strongest villain in the saga.
Even though she started out quite annoying, she's really grown into her own
Her development has been amazing
Lol I still find her quite annoying
One of the best female characters in all shonen, which is funny because she's a fairly standard tsundere character.
On the surface, yeah. She's got a lot more to her than that, though
Yes yes we can
I completely agree that she’s one of the best. Definitely had one of the best development in recent Shonen.
It's honestly quite sad that I can't think of much competition for her within shonen manga.... besides maybe Chika from world trigger or some of the fairy tail/edens zero gals.
Yeah, especially when it comes to leads, competition is slim, ironically probably the best female characters from most shounen from the new generation were side characters not the main characters/co-leads. Like Uraraka, Nobara, Nezuko, etc, probably wouldn't be my pick as the best female characters in their own show. The only exceptions is probably like Emma from Promised Neverland,
Ez girls stomp 🦶
I agree with this most battle shounen female leads pretty average in my opnion, and there are only a handful of really good ones like you Chika from World Trigger who I believe is better than Noelle. If Makima is the female lead for Chainsaw Man I would say that she is better, and Ashido Benio from Twin Star Exorcists is too in my opinion.
She is!
One of the best characters arcs in the series
Absolutely yes
Noelle and Nami are my favorite
I really wanna catch up on one piece one day. Currently on ep 160 😔
Her and lena from 86 are my absolute favorite female characters ever
I’m currently watching 86. I’m on ep 5
She has some of, if not the best character development in the series!
Absolutely, it’s a reason as to why she’s one of my favorite characters
No debate. This is 100% fact
Yes
A female character that actually gets her own fights and development. Love to see it. Bc has great female characters imo. Love charlote and mereoleona.
Mereleona is an a absolutely amazing character, badass as well
It’s not like there’s much competition honestly
You got a point there
You sir are absolutely goated for this
One of? Hell no.
I see you know what’s up
She has definitely had one of the best female character developments in manga writing
Honestly 👌
yes for sure
I fully agree with this opinion but I have to say I can’t wait until this exact same opinion gets separately posted twice on this subreddit next week
We’ll have to see if it does 😭
I hated her at the start but grew to like her
I was really hoping for the manga to be as long as one piece I’m so sad it’s ending. I feel the ending is going to get rushed
I was hoping so as well, but there’s only so much a person can do. I’m hoping it’s not going to be rushed
Absolutely 🤗
👍
Yeah but the abusive gags does kill a bit of the appeal for me
They over exaggerate it in the anime sadly
Considering the female leads I honestly agree I’ll say her main competitor is prolly Maki from JJK Makima from CSM chainsaw man Nezuko Shinobu and you can sneak in Mitsuri
i think that ururaka’s characterisation has been majorly butchered to become centred around midoriya, like she had so much potential with her drive for her family in the sports carnival and then it just.. went nowhere?
Both Makima n Maki are not a female lead.
Kinda sad to see her competition lol
Although Maki is one of the most baddass female characters she is not a female lead
Is it just me or areher boobs getting bigger?
I don’t even know 🗿
How she was in the beginning made it hard for me to like her for the longest time. I don’t think I really liked her until the Megicula fight, I believe, where she realized her true feelings. Personally, I like the strong, energetic, crazy, confident girls like Meleoleona the best. Noelle really had some great development though.
Respectable opinion 🤝
This post and these comments tell me y’all don’t watch much anime lol I don’t even think of Noelle when I think of good female characters. Go check out Jobless Reincarnation
Both noelle and mushoku girls are amazing
They think getting a couple fights = good well developed female. She literally confessed her feelings to herself then reverted right back to her normal gimmick
I like jobless reincarnation but none of those characters pop out as much better than Noelle imo. They're better than most shonen female leads for sure though
Isekai fans man 🤦♂️
Haven't watched Jobless Reincarnation... But Noelle is not a clown... SHE'S THE ENTIRE CIRCUS.
Mid
Nah
💀 Pweese stomp me 🙏🏿
Yeeaaahhhh sure you would but instead here you are taking reddit seriously.
Oh yeah I’m taking this serious, instead of going along with it just cause I’m bored and tired
I just hate how in the last season they decided so sexualize her character, so much so that it’s just weird to watch. They also did that to some of the other female characters
For sure. When we first meet noelle she basically screamed damsel in distress tsundere simp for mc. Although whether she was a Sakura or orhime I couldn’t tell luckily she was neither
Powers wise, yes. Personality wise, she still sucks to me.
Understandable
I would put Raphtalia from Shield Hero as a candidate for best new female lead
That’s fair enough, i really liked her in season 1, haven’t seen season 2 yet
Yes, but when the competition is Mikasa and Uraraka, you can be a no personality Sung Jin Woo type character and still be better than both. She's one of the best, but isn't good.
Maki, Nobara, Fuuko, Kikoru and the list probably goes on and Noelle is still better. idk why everyone is only mentioning Mikasa and Uraraka lmao
Mikasas entire personality is ELLEN
Nah nobara negs
Keywords : "one of the best...".
She hasn't even been relevant to the plot in like 60 chapters
Lmao Noelle is way better than Nobara
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She doesn’t even have half of Noelle’s growth and development
As long as she aint no Sakura, I dont care how people or even Tabata-sensei over sexualizes her
It’s good but could have been better. Didn’t like how nozel fit into this, at first being intentionally cruel and traumatizing to her only for the mom reveal to change his motivations
I truly think she’s a top 5 character in the manga too. She’s changed so much from the beginning and really became a strong character.
Maybe it depends on what you consider a "New Gen" battle shounen, but I guess if "New Gen" is all battle shounen manga and anime after 2014 until now I would say this probably true, I personally would pick Makima (Chainsaw Man) over her although I am not sure if she is the female lead of that series.
Noelle is considered one of the best written female characters in Shonen. Not only fans say so, but also many critics. Unfortunately, since the timeskip, she has become more and more sexualized. Since then, 80% of the time she has only been seen in fanservice mode. The many butt-shots during her fight with Vanica/Megicula were just unpleasant. Tabata should be careful not to make her completely ridiculous at the end.
Mimosa is way better ngl
For me, nope.
'She's an annoying slut' jesus christ
Cope
Secre is emotionless most of the time she’s kind of boring
Can you be any more misogynistic?
I don't know, I don't like her as a character. It's not that I dislike her, but she is kinda boring. Everything that I like about her Asta does better, and she doesn't have enough cool factor either for me.
Her Valkyrie power up was cool but yeah she’s kind of annoying personality wise and really only got handed those powers cause of her mother
That's not Nobara
Nobara hasn’t been relevant in 60 chapters
Not really
Is she though? I mean character development aside she's annoying as fuck, bitchy and jealous. Asta deserves much better. A meme I saw on reddit says"you love tsunderes, I hate bitches. We are not the same"
That’s the point, good character development. personality isn’t as important of a factor this isn’t a romance anime or slice of life. She’s well written for shonen. And being “bitchy” was her defence mechanism from being abused and belittled her entire childhood
Man of culture I see
Hell nah, being a Tsundere and a abuser doesn't =/= "Best new gen female leads"
Judging an entire character on her personality instead of actually paying attention to growth and development invalidates your mid opinion
No we can't
I recently watched the ranking of kings which had 2 more compelling and thought provoking female characters who weren't even leads. Lady Miranjo and Queen Hiling blow Noelle out the water, nazuna nanakusa is another female lead who is better imo, ik we all love black clover but to continuously say she's the best of all female characters out of new gen anime and manga is a super strech, it also old y'all should give it a rest.
Ofc this is on the black clover subreddit, everyone would agree. Take this to the anime subreddit, I’m actually curious who most fans think is the best new gen female lead
Not one, but 3 different replies, nice 👌
Nopeeeee, not in any universe
🤝
Eh doubt.