It is good to New England get smacked around and I seriously doubt Buffalo is going to be merciful, they'll just keep scoring, unlike Stefanski, whom puts on the brakes.
I've brought this up multiple times - Even if you think Baker can be a pretty good quarterback... look at the current AFC landscape. He really doesn't come close to these guys. Our super bowl aspirations under Baker come down to a miracle stretch a la Joe Flacco
I watch Josh Allen and I’m like “damn…if only we had drafted him” and then im like “nah, we would have ruined him…Buffalo deserves him”. Fucking Browns
ppl say this about every QB. Jackson would've been ruined here, Allen would've been ruined, Mahomes would've been ruined. I agree, it's mostly just cope.
He'd have been ran out of town after year two. Hed have came in the same game baker did rookie year, done well and then freddie would have happened. I dont think hes as mentally tough as baker is to deal with the dysfunction. At best, he might not have gotten hurt this year if he were still around.
I fucking despise the Raiders. When I want them to lose they turn into the best team in sports history but when I want them to win they turn into the worst fucking team ever put on a football field.
What sucks is watching Raiders was semi like one of our games. Penalties at the worst time and drops. I think the raiders had a decent shot at winning without that stuff.
Yuck. Neither one of these teams deserved to be in the playoffs. What a wasted opportunity for the Browns. So many opportunities to take over the division and they laid an egg every time.
The bengals literally beat the full strength Chiefs, the only Chiefs loss since week 7. Also looks at Burrows stats in the last month and a half of the season. The bengals are super bowl contenders you clown.
We barely missed the playoffs with a QB playing like ass all season. Whether you think Mayfield is the long term answer or not, I think if he’s healthy we are going to be in the thick of the division race and wildcard race.
So are many other quarterbacks; so are many other players in general. This is getting frustrating to see. If he performed at least at an average level during his NFL career up until this year, yeah, I'd be on board.
I know I should want the Bengals to lose, but I just can’t help but root for them because I can sleep at night knowing we own them and that loss against the Raiders still hurts my fucking soul.
Usually I root for the Bengals in the playoffs (and against Ravens/Steelers) because I grew up in Cincinnati and was a big Chad Johnson fan back in the day, but I can’t do it after a season where the Browns were supposed to be way better than them.
Honestly - with Burrow, Herbert, Mahomes, Allen, ?Watson, and Carr/Jackson (to a lesser extent) - doesn't feel like we have a great shot with Mayfield. Too many good QBs in the conference that we just don't come close to matching up with at the moment
We've dominated Cincy, Ben is retiring, and Lamar just came off a shaky year. Even if you think the 40 we've put up the last couple times vs them is unsustainable (I'd agree), our defense is very good and that won't change. This year sucked for sure, but whatever your feelings on Baker I'm sure a healed version of him is better than what we saw this year. And we were a few plays away in several 1 score games from being in the playoffs.
This is why I'm so pissed about this year. Idk why it's hard for some on this sub to understand, windows are brief and this was a window for us and we shit down our leg
Joe Mixon is already getting pretty close to eclipsing Chubbs # of touches in the GB game, and we aren't even at half time yet. Crazy considering they have an actual passing game to work with
Incidentally, I picked the Bengals to win this one in the NFL Super Bowl Challenge - prizes on offer. This doesn't mean I'm rooting for them, but I'm not rooting for the Raiders either. Football, yay.
This year sucks man, we had so many chances to get in the playoffs, I'm fully jealous watching this right now lol. Really was not fun watching our first 2 meaningless games in 2 years.
They never make big plays. May e a few after the catch, but they never turn hard to catch balls into big plays. They struggle enough just catching balls that are on the screws, especially if they are over the middle. Browns WRs are awful if they think a hit is coming, they all have a major case of hearing foot steps. Even in years we sucked, I seen better play at WR. Baker hasnt been perfect and obviously not this year, but I never seen a QB get let down with more clutch balls being dropped. If you look at the stats for drops and see how low they are for some of our players. It shows how player friendly that stat is. Some guys finished the year with less drops than they basically had in single games alone. You have to be wide open and have it hit you in yiur facemask for them to count it. People will argue "obj only had 3 drops". Anyone who watches football knows there were way more than that, for him and every WR that shouldve been converted. Everyone drops a pass. Our guys just do it a ton, and at awful moments.
God imagine if he could've actually played with Baker. If Weeden could have him putting up those numbers those two would've been unstoppable. All those high throws wouldn't really matter with JG.
Anyone else ready to see a Steelers loss?
Bills might win it all if they keep this up…
The Colts beat the Pats and Bills but lost to Jax.
We need an elite quarterback or at least a quarterback that does not throw stupid picks
we have one of those two already...
Just in case anyone was wondering:
On top of that, the steelers are only going to have a couple down years before theyre back in business.
Just to remind you how far from being contenders we are.... The Patriots beat us like a drum to the point where the team gave up... Let that sink in
The Patriots have owned Baker since he came into the league. Watching these games makes you wonder where we sit in the AFC.
We stomped the Bengals the week before who stomped Pittsburgh who beat us twice. Any given Sunday 🤷 (or Saturday, Monday whatever)
Pats were hot then. They’ve been frauds for a month
This game just has me thinking back to the Steelers game last year:
My god, we are too the point where now we are bitching about not having enough fun beating the Steelers in the playoffs? Pathetic dude.
We had 7th string corners playing that game.
And who would have thought Zach Taylor would be a better coach than Stefanski...
The Browns can only play prevent for so long..They took the foot off the gas
Allen my goodness
Man it feels good to see the Patriots get clapped
I'm depressed now. 4 TDs for Allen against a defense that made us look like a high school team.
He also had like 3 interceptions and 120 yards with no TDs against Atlanta. Any given Sunday
Good job bills knock off another team we lost to. Fuck the patriots
Was that Jamie Gillan?
Yep
Good for the Bengals. Now I hope they are clapped next week by whoever they face.
Watching Burrow and Allen today is making me realize a lot of things.
It must be nice…
Oooooooooh I bet I can guess what at least one of them is...
Fact: Baker played injured all season.
Trying to convince yourself that he's in Josh Allen's league.... I like it!
I think you have to say it three times... Like Beetlejuice...
LETS GO BENGALS!!!!
Na... We good here
Patriots getting smacked around. You love to see it
Belichick? more like Belicheeks, amirite?
Lol imagine being in Buffalo right now. Insane
Wow, Blowout city.
It is good to New England get smacked around and I seriously doubt Buffalo is going to be merciful, they'll just keep scoring, unlike Stefanski, whom puts on the brakes.
Imagine we had a coach that isn’t afraid to put his foot on the other team’s throat.
Watching Burrow and Allen I realize we are not even close to being a contender in the AFC....
I've brought this up multiple times - Even if you think Baker can be a pretty good quarterback... look at the current AFC landscape. He really doesn't come close to these guys. Our super bowl aspirations under Baker come down to a miracle stretch a la Joe Flacco
Sigh. They’re in another league both of them can read the field so well.
Cool to watch a team just exert their will on another. Meanwhile we squeaked past the lions 13-10
They lost to the Jags
Hey, it took the longest FG in history for the Ravens to beat the Lions.
That's why dad named you Joe Dirt instead of Belichick...
I watch Josh Allen and I’m like “damn…if only we had drafted him” and then im like “nah, we would have ruined him…Buffalo deserves him”. Fucking Browns
This is gonna be one of those games, isn't it?
Cincy is going crazy rn happy for my Bengal fan friends
I will be more happy when they get smoked next week. Fuck the bungles
I hate the argument that Josh Allen would have been "ruined" here. Just people trying to make themselves feel better about taking the wrong QB.
ppl say this about every QB. Jackson would've been ruined here, Allen would've been ruined, Mahomes would've been ruined. I agree, it's mostly just cope.
I mean he might not have been ruined but lets not pretend the situations where the same.
He'd have been ran out of town after year two. Hed have came in the same game baker did rookie year, done well and then freddie would have happened. I dont think hes as mentally tough as baker is to deal with the dysfunction. At best, he might not have gotten hurt this year if he were still around.
What a play from Josh Allen
Anyone notice a difference yet between our QB and the Bills’?
Imagine Josh Allen pain playing for the Browns…
No chance we see the same Allen when fuck face hue was running the team. There would be more complaints about him now
At least we didnt draft josh rosen
Bengals are gonna get wrecked by the Titans/Chiefs if they play like that next week
Their play calling in the red zone was really bad…all those field goals aren’t gonna work
Good. I hope they get curb stomped
The wheels really started to come off defensively in the 4th. They get blown out of the water next week
Bengals are one and done. That was weak . Didn't look like a SB team. Full strength Browns would have put 40 on them.
Doubt it. How does that couch feel 🤔
Things are getting wild in downtown Cincy right now
I fucking despise the Raiders. When I want them to lose they turn into the best team in sports history but when I want them to win they turn into the worst fucking team ever put on a football field.
With all the dysfunction and drama they had, they accomplished more than they probably had any right to. Kudos to them.
Glad the raiders lost so I can laugh at my friend and make him angry but then they broke the bungles playoff loss streak damn it.
What sucks is watching Raiders was semi like one of our games. Penalties at the worst time and drops. I think the raiders had a decent shot at winning without that stuff.
I mean who wants carr? I don’t.
he would be a substantial upgrade from Baker
So anyone who says the Browns are the only ones getting screwed by the refs apparently didn't see CINCI scoring a touchdown AFTER a whistle was blown.
C'mon man the browns beat this bengals team by 25
Yuck. Neither one of these teams deserved to be in the playoffs. What a wasted opportunity for the Browns. So many opportunities to take over the division and they laid an egg every time.
The bengals literally beat the full strength Chiefs, the only Chiefs loss since week 7. Also looks at Burrows stats in the last month and a half of the season. The bengals are super bowl contenders you clown.
That means your team doesn't deserve it either 😆😆
Browns aren't even playing today, and this thread is somehow still toxic. Jeez.
It's so bad
Exactly what I typed out before I decided not to actively engage with the toxicity and deleted it.
Raiders were getting calls all day. No way they would have even been close otherwise. The bungoles rightfully won.
You think the refs with ever just literally give us a touchdown. Cuz man it’s gonna be nice to get a free 7 points in a playoff game
This could have so easily been us man
Wish burrow wasn’t in this division
why would they spike on first down? They easily could’ve done a quick throw
That's it, fuck the Bengals, I'm going to the Jack and planning to lose thousands, fuck the NFL
that spike was a hilariously dumb call.
Fuck Cincinnati
If Baker did that…
He has. Countless times, including vs KC, GB, and Pittsburgh this year.
That call was weaksauce
He clearly brushed an eye lash off of Carr’s face. Automatic 15 yards
Raiders gunna win this.
you were saying?
Jesus Christ this thread is a shit show. Sad
I’m just hear for the positive talk. What there is of it that is. Lol
I thought only Baker threw passes directly into linemen
Could be ballgame here
Browns don’t even play today and this game thread is still full of hate and anger. This is just sad.
Because fans would rather be watching the team play today instead of being at home with Baker Mayfield.
From the dude that attacks anyone that doesn't like Baker. Holy fuck the lack of self awareness lmao 🤣 😂
We barely missed the playoffs with a QB playing like ass all season. Whether you think Mayfield is the long term answer or not, I think if he’s healthy we are going to be in the thick of the division race and wildcard race.
Wow. 5 wide up 7 in the 4th quarter of your first playoff game and just picking them apart.
Hey, chin up everyone. Maybe the next franchise QB for the Browns was born this year already...
Great play calling on this drive for the Bengals
That back shoulder throw is gonna be in our nightmares for a long time, I’m afraid.
Baker was injured all season
So are many other quarterbacks; so are many other players in general. This is getting frustrating to see. If he performed at least at an average level during his NFL career up until this year, yeah, I'd be on board.
So we're many other QBs.
Maxx Power, that's the man who's name you'd love touch, but you mustn't touch...
Bengals getting too pass happy
They have a franchise QB, unlike us.
Carr has thrown some dimes so far. Receivers aren’t helping him out
Shoulda put a fiver on refs as Super Bowl champs
That's close
It really wasn't
Of all people, why is it Larry I have to watch go down. He is an excellent dude, I hope it is not what I think it is.
Achilles?
noooo ogunjobi is down, hope he’s all good
Ikr he played a huge part for us last year. Will always be grateful for that
Damn we should’ve kept Larry
Chase is going to be a problem for a long time. These LSU receivers are so good
I don’t know. Look at the LSU guys we had. Well I like Jarvis
He's been shut down both games
Garrett Wilson will have a Jamar Chase type impact
No way he’s available when browns select.
Ah damn I hope he’s okay. What happened? I looked away.
did someone get hurt? I’m at commercial still lol
It's nearly 11:15pm here and being honest I'm just not feeling it for this game, even though it's still a close score, so I'm off to bed.
Joe Burrow-Underrated
Thinking Bengals but wr shall see who shows up!! And then think Bills handle the rookie tonight in the cold fest.
i cant help myself.
Bengals have the best qb in the division
I think they have the best receiving core too in the division.
No, that would be Big dick Nick
Lol at the Joe Burrow fan club. We get it. He’s better than Baker.
If I'm a Bengals fan I'm not liking this game. These always make me nervous when your team is playing better but letting the other team hang around.
I know I should want the Bengals to lose, but I just can’t help but root for them because I can sleep at night knowing we own them and that loss against the Raiders still hurts my fucking soul.
Usually I root for the Bengals in the playoffs (and against Ravens/Steelers) because I grew up in Cincinnati and was a big Chad Johnson fan back in the day, but I can’t do it after a season where the Browns were supposed to be way better than them.
WOW CARR JUST MISSED WALLER WIDE OPEN LOOK AWAY BAKER HATERS
yikes dude lol
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I need to hate Burrow because he’s on a rival team, but gd it’s really hard to hate him and his game. He’s so fucking good
Man watching other teams drop passes is almost as frustrating as watching us drop passes.
the raiders will die for kicking that fg
Feel like our window has begun to close.
Get good QB play our window wide open
Honestly - with Burrow, Herbert, Mahomes, Allen, ?Watson, and Carr/Jackson (to a lesser extent) - doesn't feel like we have a great shot with Mayfield. Too many good QBs in the conference that we just don't come close to matching up with at the moment
We've dominated Cincy, Ben is retiring, and Lamar just came off a shaky year. Even if you think the 40 we've put up the last couple times vs them is unsustainable (I'd agree), our defense is very good and that won't change. This year sucked for sure, but whatever your feelings on Baker I'm sure a healed version of him is better than what we saw this year. And we were a few plays away in several 1 score games from being in the playoffs.
No. Just need better WR’s and injury luck
There are just so many QBs in the AFC/AFCN who can put their team on their back to win a game and we have none of them
Browns are a good team, potentially great defense. If our QB can just manage the game and not turn it over we are good enough to win SB.
This is why I'm so pissed about this year. Idk why it's hard for some on this sub to understand, windows are brief and this was a window for us and we shit down our leg
I’m just sad watching Burrow. He’s so good. We have this shit to look forward to for the next 20 years. Ugh.
If the Bengals get an o line we are legitimately fucked
It’s unreal how much better Burrow is than Baker.
Burrow also has 3 legit receivers to throw to.
That was baller AF
Goddamn, Burrow looks so good
Joe Mixon is already getting pretty close to eclipsing Chubbs # of touches in the GB game, and we aren't even at half time yet. Crazy considering they have an actual passing game to work with
You know the passing game allows them to get more first downs, more first downs means more running back touches.
Joe Mixon isn’t half the back Chubb is and Mixon is an excellent RB
Hopefully Baker is watching this game and taking notes on how to read a defense.
Probably is, just won’t be working with anyone besides himself on how to implement those notes.
And Stefanski is watching and taking notes on how to call plays
Dude imagine burrow with a good o line. Holy moly
With an eye to the future I'd rather not if it's all the same to you. He's impressive in what pocket there is though isn't he.
Stefansk & Bakers beard game puts Taylor's and Burrow's to Shane. They are like preteen boys.
If only beards could put us in the playoffs
I really miss kickoffs actually being exciting. It's like watching Dante Hall when someone gets past the 30 now lol.
Incidentally, I picked the Bengals to win this one in the NFL Super Bowl Challenge - prizes on offer. This doesn't mean I'm rooting for them, but I'm not rooting for the Raiders either. Football, yay.
if mayfield had thrown that pass then half of you lot would blame him cos the receiver had to "stretch" and it wasnt on his numbers. fact
If Baker played QB anything close to the ability of Burrow, he'd be forgiven any throw he made
Well, no: Baker can definitely hit a guy right on his numbers... just tends to be the wrong team.
If mayfield would of thrown that pass then it would of been behind him at his knees. Fact
This year sucks man, we had so many chances to get in the playoffs, I'm fully jealous watching this right now lol. Really was not fun watching our first 2 meaningless games in 2 years.
Watching our divisional rivals draft FQBs with ease is so depressing
I haven’t seen Browns WRs go up and catch balls like this since Josh Gordon. Chase and Higgins are outstanding
They never make big plays. May e a few after the catch, but they never turn hard to catch balls into big plays. They struggle enough just catching balls that are on the screws, especially if they are over the middle. Browns WRs are awful if they think a hit is coming, they all have a major case of hearing foot steps. Even in years we sucked, I seen better play at WR. Baker hasnt been perfect and obviously not this year, but I never seen a QB get let down with more clutch balls being dropped. If you look at the stats for drops and see how low they are for some of our players. It shows how player friendly that stat is. Some guys finished the year with less drops than they basically had in single games alone. You have to be wide open and have it hit you in yiur facemask for them to count it. People will argue "obj only had 3 drops". Anyone who watches football knows there were way more than that, for him and every WR that shouldve been converted. Everyone drops a pass. Our guys just do it a ton, and at awful moments.
God imagine if he could've actually played with Baker. If Weeden could have him putting up those numbers those two would've been unstoppable. All those high throws wouldn't really matter with JG.
Yeah, man. Who did Baker throw to in college? Does he have a chase we can sign?
We swept the Bengals easily, yet here we are watching them curb stomp a dead team we lost to. Peak Browns fandom
This guy Browns. Don’t forget it’s their QBs 2nd year and here we are not knowing what Baker we’re going to get 5 years later. Pain.