The rule states for a last second FG, the ref will not stand over the ball, as the defense should be well aware of what play is coming and be prepared to sub.
TCU's coach got onto the refs during the Oklahoma State game after the Pokes pulled that stunt several times in the first half. Since then the league has been very tight-fisted about how long a "reasonable" substitution takes on defense.
After Baylor led TCU 28-20 with 9:47, TCU ended the game with 9 unanswered points to beat Baylor 29-28 on the road and improve to 11-0 (8-0 Big 12). TCU already clinched a Big 12 Championship apperance, but they became the first Big 12 team to start 11-0 in the College Football Playoff era.
The mandate of the committee is to select the four best teams so this game didn't help. It didn't hurt because TCU didn't lose but it certainly didn't help their argument. They need to fix their problem of being a 7+ point underdog to anyone else up for playoff consideration because it's hard to be judged one of the best four teams if you're more than a TD underdog to more than four teams. Checking boxes with wins and even a conference title merely gets them to the front door but they need to start stomping teams right now if they want to get inside the playoff house.
I think what this comes down to is our DBs. Theyāre pretty much all terrible and know it (to be expected, all of our good ones went to the draft last year). They play with 10-15 yards if cushion bc theyāre afraid of getting beat outside and letting up the huge play over the top, but it is really easy to scheme mesh and flood concepts and pick ip that 10-15 underneath every play. Our corners arenāt good enough to play close, so we gave TCU all the free yards underneath to kick the FG
What it came down to was the QBs poor decision making. Absolutely floundering the game away on the last offensive possession. Wide open rec for the game ending first down. Sliding when 3 yards behind the 1st down line. Shapen has no football IQ Jesus Christ
TCU has a better team without a doubt. The hateful eight in me is happy about it but that was such a heart breaker. This season has just been so depressing as there are these glimpses of promise but Shapen is basically Charlie Brewer in his decision making.
People say Georgia will blow TCU out but if TCU win out wonāt they be 3rd ahead of loser of Michigan or Ohio state? Then they would play 2nd place not Georgia??
Everyone is saying Baylor was stupid, and yea it's hard to argue against that, but seriously wtf was that last drive by TCU? That was some of the dumbest clock management I've ever seen, and I lived through this:
You see, their team isn't good enough to get into the playoffs on their own merits so they have to spend their Saturdays praying on other teams' downfalls.
They stopped playing their game on offense. Honestly terrible play calling from the offensive coordinators. Why take away the pass that was making the run work just because the clock was low? Enemy team had three timeouts so Baylor burned 12 seconds and gave the ball back. What was that?
Icing the kicker isnāt the right call there though that kicker has to run on the field get set and kick a 40 yard field goal all in 10 seconds icing the kicker wouldāve been a super awful decision
Could Baylor have been slow to substitute and the ref would have stood over the ball to prevent them snapping and the game would be over, or is that an NFL rule only?
The crow eating in this thread is worthy of display
Until next week Tennessee fans š
About this "next week" thing...
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They salty
See, TCU did not even take out the QB!
While Iām obviously happy with the result, it feels murky supporting a team that has ādo a drive by shootingā as a play call.
Except winning all the games...
Baylor put the barricades out to stop the students from coming on to the field. Whoops.
All Baylor had to do to win was substitute their defense on the last play. Horrible coaching.
The rule states for a last second FG, the ref will not stand over the ball, as the defense should be well aware of what play is coming and be prepared to sub.
Why is this being upvoated? It's wrong.
TCU's coach got onto the refs during the Oklahoma State game after the Pokes pulled that stunt several times in the first half. Since then the league has been very tight-fisted about how long a "reasonable" substitution takes on defense.
Baylor did sub. I don't think any ref holds the ball in that situation but that's very smart
So are we gonna run the clock?
After Baylor led TCU 28-20 with 9:47, TCU ended the game with 9 unanswered points to beat Baylor 29-28 on the road and improve to 11-0 (8-0 Big 12). TCU already clinched a Big 12 Championship apperance, but they became the first Big 12 team to start 11-0 in the College Football Playoff era.
Ya know that title wouldāve gone to OU but uhā¦ we had something to say about it lol
>they became the first Big 12 team to start 11-0.
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That doesn't work on that kick.
How boring, both baylor and illinois are blowing it
I will never be a good sport against TCU. Fuckem
Hold this L for me big dog
The feeling is mutual.
Whereās the hate on Michigan about to lose to an unranked Illinois?
In the Michigan game thread lol
Classic game. Credit to TCU, good teams find a way to win.
Baylor can lick our massive froggy balls
Fuck you
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Watch CFP drop TCU to 5th after this win for poor game control /s
The mandate of the committee is to select the four best teams so this game didn't help. It didn't hurt because TCU didn't lose but it certainly didn't help their argument. They need to fix their problem of being a 7+ point underdog to anyone else up for playoff consideration because it's hard to be judged one of the best four teams if you're more than a TD underdog to more than four teams. Checking boxes with wins and even a conference title merely gets them to the front door but they need to start stomping teams right now if they want to get inside the playoff house.
āThis was a non-quality win, however we will be putting Baylor in the top 25 for a quality loss.ā
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They shouldā¦.
Fire every coordinator, put Aranda on the hot seat coming into next season. Absolutely fucking unbelievable
I think what this comes down to is our DBs. Theyāre pretty much all terrible and know it (to be expected, all of our good ones went to the draft last year). They play with 10-15 yards if cushion bc theyāre afraid of getting beat outside and letting up the huge play over the top, but it is really easy to scheme mesh and flood concepts and pick ip that 10-15 underneath every play. Our corners arenāt good enough to play close, so we gave TCU all the free yards underneath to kick the FG
What it came down to was the QBs poor decision making. Absolutely floundering the game away on the last offensive possession. Wide open rec for the game ending first down. Sliding when 3 yards behind the 1st down line. Shapen has no football IQ Jesus Christ
Letās just all remember that was how the #4 team performed against an unranked 6-4 teamā¦ā¦.. impressive š®
Too busy remembering your 2 Ls. One against FSU! And Tenn went down to 4 loss cocks.
Georgia was just as bad against unranked 4-6 Mizzou
you struggled against Arkansas, a team that lost to liberty
TCU-Baylor never disappoints man
TCU has a better team without a doubt. The hateful eight in me is happy about it but that was such a heart breaker. This season has just been so depressing as there are these glimpses of promise but Shapen is basically Charlie Brewer in his decision making.
People say Georgia will blow TCU out but if TCU win out wonāt they be 3rd ahead of loser of Michigan or Ohio state? Then they would play 2nd place not Georgia??
Yeah I don't see how TCU gets placed below 3rd if they win out. So they'll probably play tOSU in the semi
Do you feel better vs Ohio state than you do vs Georgia?
Theyāll get blown out by any of the other 3 teams in the playoff
Welp, time to tune into the Illini hopefully pull off the upset against Michigan.
Baylor, what was that clock management at the end? That was god awful
Bruh, that kicker hearts was probably going 10,000 miles an hour.
Didnāt give him time to overthink so maybe helped lol
Dread it. Run from it. But a 2nd half TCU comeback always arrives.
Big Dyke Energy.
TCU didn't lose but they almost loss so that should be enough to knock them out of the playoff š¤
So is Tennessee's 25 point loss to South Carolina enough to move them past TCU or...
Lol
Or Tennessee takes care of its own business instead of crying about other teams.
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No
Everyone is saying Baylor was stupid, and yea it's hard to argue against that, but seriously wtf was that last drive by TCU? That was some of the dumbest clock management I've ever seen, and I lived through this:
TCU is a team of destiny. Accept it like I have.
They may make it to the playoff, but a blowout loss is coming in the first round.
That was nuts man what a game. Go Frogs!
Eat. A. Dick. Baylor.
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I mean come on man. Yāall won. As you should have. You donāt have to be a dick about it.
Y'all realize y'all were gifted 4 points by the refs
Suck my nuts TCU
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TCU is going to get absolutely smoked by whoever theyāre matched up against in the postseason
We know it, weāre just on a mission to be taken seriously. insert Arrested Development GIF here
Keep crying, loser
that was a sexy kick
This was an incredibly fun and entertaining game. Lots of great football. I always tune in the TCU-Baylor because itās awesome.
Baylor gave this game away for no reason. Awful play calling.
Awful play call every dame this year. All I want for Christmas is to fire our OC Grimes.
ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD
Okay everyone! Follow me to the Yale/Harvard game thread!
If Shapen throws to his TE on that last 3rd down the game is over.
Yep. Bad QB play ruined the season for them.
That PI call fucked our chances
ignores the TCU interception that was ruled incomplete for supposedly hitting the ground
You fucked your chances. Worst play calling Iāve ever seen in Baylorās last possession. Absolutely embarrassing
Iām all for shitting on refs and that call was total butt. But you canāt blame a call in the 1st quarter for making you lose a game.
GG Baylor, thanks for taking another year off my life
Well, an attempt was made
Georgia is going to beat this team by 700.
Georgia wonāt be playing them, they should still drop for that awful game they just played
UGA wonāt be 1 after we beat them
Those are some sour fucking grapes, my friend
I would say fuck kicker routines just go for it and hit it
What in the world was Dykes thinking running the ball there? It worked out but wtf
I'm legit second hand embarrassed by all these Vol fans whining about TCU's schedule, Baylor playing TCU close, etc etc. How sad lol.
I remember Indiana and Iowa State fans were like this too. Gotta give props to TCU, they donāt whine.
Why canāt everyone just enjoy some good football. That last 13 seconds made me feel some things
traitor
A sniff of relevance really does that to fans.
To be fair mizzou could play their schedule and probably be undefeated too with their defense
Yāall better win the damn playoffs
They wonāt, donāt worry
Tennessee fans melting down on here lmfao
TCU is going to get blown out game 1 of the playoffs
Correct
NOT RUINING OUR CHANCES TODAY BAYLOR, NOT TODAY
That one hurt man. A lot. What a rough season. I feel despondent .
Did the ref even hold the snap at all?
He did but Baylor never subbed. If they did, the clock would've ran out.
Too many poor decisions from Baylor's QB.
And coach. Just go there for 2 yards. Not like your defense is good.
Unflaired in here absolutely malding rn. Go Frogs
What song are they playing in the stadium?
Never Gonna Give You Up - Rick Astly
Dance Monkey, Tones & I
Daride - Sandstorm
BAYLOR DIDNT EVEN TRY TO SUBSTITUTE WHEN TCU RAN THE FG TEAM OUT. ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS CHANGE ONE PLAYER AND THE CLOCK RUNS OUT
Damn I didnāt think about that damn that sucks
RIGHT!? I mean, I'm glad they botched it but damn, no situational awareness by them at the end.
Yup. TCU literally time managed the game to death. And got away with it. Wow.
meltdown on the Tennessee sub lmao
Yāall have GOT to find something better to do lmao
baylor what the fuck
Lol
Can sec fans be more annoying
Yes. Now shut up.
Hey man! What did we do?!
Yes
Yes
God yes
Donāt tempt them.
Just play better
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GG man. That was beyond wild. Every year we do this to each other...
Choke job for the ages
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Someone get that kid a hooker and some cocaine stat!
Baylor shouldāve just laid on dude with the ball
Whatās with the salty Tennessee fans in here lmao
They low down
B/c they potentially may have lost a playoff spot
DO YOUR FUCKIN JOB NEXT WEEK
You see, their team isn't good enough to get into the playoffs on their own merits so they have to spend their Saturdays praying on other teams' downfalls.
They wanna make the playoffs when they cant even win their division and need TCU to lose for that bs to happen
If youāre Baylor, YOU GOTTA AT LEAST LAY ON THE RUNNER AND NOT LET HIM UP FOR A COUPLE SECONDS.
Baylor had more yards more time of possession more firstdowns fewer penalty yards and manage to lose anyway..
They stopped playing their game on offense. Honestly terrible play calling from the offensive coordinators. Why take away the pass that was making the run work just because the clock was low? Enemy team had three timeouts so Baylor burned 12 seconds and gave the ball back. What was that?
TO ALL YOU SEC BITCHES ASKING FOR A DROP IN RANKING OR WHATEVER. SAVE IT MOTHERFUCKERS. AKA SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Wait, arent you going to be sec soon
nah its much more enjoyable to see a team like this get exposed come playoff time
GG Baylor. Another absolute barn burner
I know next to nothing about college ball and knew that Baylor should have iced the kicker. This is the most sus finish of a game this season.
Lmao what? Icing the kicker means they are in less of a rush so itās way easier for the kicker to make it
Youāre right you donāt watch a lot of football bc calling a timeout there would not be smart
Icing the kicker isnāt the right call there though that kicker has to run on the field get set and kick a 40 yard field goal all in 10 seconds icing the kicker wouldāve been a super awful decision
Baylor running the clock made no sense, they gave themselves no chance to win and still left plenty of time for TCU.
Agreed, but thatās our OC for you. I hope Grimes is fired.
He fucking made it!
Hell of a ballgame
Letās go Kansas State! Win the Big 12!!!!!
Kicker was as calm as Dave Aranda in literally any situation, good or bad
I guess it worked out but what in the actual fuck was that clock management after that 3rd and 1 draw lol
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO HOLDING THE SNAP TO LET THE DEFENSE SUB?!?!?!?
They lined up they didnāt try to sub otherwise it would have been game over. Thatās on Baylor panicking
Doesn't apply to field goals, specifically stated in the NCAA rulebook.
Exactly
TCU genuinely should drop out of the top 5 after this game haha if they make the playoffs it will be an absolute slaughtering by UGA
Very possible. However, I think we are okay if Michigan loses.
I agree but it won't happen.
Wow what a season
Well there 11-0 sorry fellas who are upset about that lol
Whats with all the copium Tennessee fans in here š
Hell yeah, TCU!
Thanks fellow purple bro.
What the hell did I just watch?
shout out to the TCU kicker. MVP of the year
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Guy in Winnie the Pooh outfit gonna be sad eating Chicken Express.
When I say we screamedā¦we screamed!!!!
Now to go to the Michigan game for another unusually close game
Thanks for the heads up lmao
TCU out here trying to scheme their way into ridiculous comeback wins
It just works.
I've taken up the habit of betting on them every week once they're down. Been very profitable
Iām not sure Iāve EVER seen a kicker literally SPRINT against the clock to kick it through wow what an insane finish
bro stop lying, you did not practice that
That run on 3rd and 7 was still dumb as fuck
Could Baylor have been slow to substitute and the ref would have stood over the ball to prevent them snapping and the game would be over, or is that an NFL rule only?
An ISU flair dug up the rule, and it doesn't apply on a FG attempt like that one.
Really surprised they didnāt. Refs probably wouldnāt have kept them from snapping it though.