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Agreed, I feel like this is inevitable considering all of the negative feedback. The show runners left the the actress, Sonoya Mizuno, out to dry deciding to go with that accent
Really hoping they drop it entirely next season and let her speak with her natural accent. I honestly think viewers would forget about it after 1 episode; other characters changed accents and got recast and it was fine (in GOT)
They could have just given her a normal British accent after the time-skip. It would make sense in-universe for someone like her with such a vast information network to have adapted to a Westerosi accent. I have a relative who had a thick ass Filipino accent who moved to the UK over ten years ago. Now he’s got a proper London accent after living there for so long. Ffs I’m a Filipino who lives in the Philippines but who speaks English in an American accent after watching so many American movies and cartoons growing up. Accents can change.
I think her scene with Otto in episode 9 is especially bad because it sounds like her dialogue was added in as ADR, which makes it uncanny. Her earlier scenes were pretty bad, but her reappearance at the end of the season were jarring with how awful they were, which I think is a combo of the ADR and terrible accent.
Sounds like Jar Jar Binks. I have to cut the subtitles on every time she comes on. I can only hope and pray that they listen to the audience and drop that accent. The actual actress doesn’t have one it’s like a bad Jamaican accent
I genuinely cried laughing because I made a joke about her sounding like Jarjar Binks to my boyfriend when we were watching. He had to pause the show because I could not stop. I'm glad I'm not the only one who though that lmao
Doesn't really have much to do with her & her accent, but I've switched to full time subtitles when watching shows & movies. 32 year old that has definitely declined in the hearing department, plus I don't necessarily have to keep the remote in my hand to adjust the volume when it goes from a character whispering to epic battle music just like that 🫰.
Didn’t mind it in the first episode, even in ep 2 it was.. fine? But in ep 9 it became too much, but luckily they can easily soften it in season 2, Shae had the perfect accent.
I was so excited to see she was in this, especially since the original series had no Asian characters at all. Except a priestess in essos in season 5 that Varys and Tyrion are watching from afar lol. But then she started talking and i was like “noooo what is happening?!!?!”
In what was she good? I'm asking seriously because it's only the second time I see her and the second time I don't really like her. I thought she was pretty bad in Devs too.
She's from the Free City of Lorath, like Shae on Game of Thrones. So they have her imitating Shae's accent, which in reality, was English with a Turkish accent.
Yes, I thought the same thing. She’s not from Westeros, and she’s been in different places her whole life so I didn’t think much of her accent at all. It made sense in the context for me.
I seriously don't know what they were thinking letting her speak like that. Its not even her real accent so there's no excuse. They (her and the show) actively made that choice, and it was a terrible one lol
Yes her real accent is more natural and lot easier to listen(and understand). Maybe it's me overthinking, but I really hope it was not showrunners' descision to be like "Oh she's (half) Asian, let's go for a weird Asian-y accent. People would think that's nore natural."
Seeing as canonically it's basically Planetos' answer to Florence (mercantile city state, eventually ruled by a Lorenzo Medici analogue, literally have 'gonfaloniere' as a noble title), they 'should' be Italian.
I haven’t rewatched the show yet so maybe my memory is just off, but I swear her accent changed throughout the show. The Jamaican-like accent we hear in her final appearance of the season didn’t seem to be the same as her earlier appearances.
I really don't have a problem with this accent. It's a made up accent for a made up world. I understand people having an issue with it sounding like a fake french creole accent, but I justify it by saying it's influenced by some other accent in this made-up world.
Man, I knew I was in the minority, but I feel she's selling the HELL out of that accent. She gives some of her backstory and she's from a Free City, but was also sold and traveled around, ending up in King's Landing. Wouldn't it make sense that her accent is a weird amalgamation of a bunch of different (fictional) places?
It's not supposed to be a Creole accent. There's no such thing as a Creole accent in Westeros. Her accent can be anything distinct from other characters' accents.
I mean, there's no England in Westeros either. I think it just stands out to people because it's the only accent in the show not based on a real world nationality. (That we know of).
Interesting! In the French version of the show she speaks totally normally, with no particular accent. Sometimes we do not perceive a character in the same way depending on the dubbing.
Ey dun no wat yar takkin about her aczent iz todali fine tu mi, on a real tho whoever cast her knowing her accent was this bad or if she’s faking the accent and they kept it in has to be fired. Her acting is fine it’s just hearing her speak is cringeworthy
I actually liked it. According to me, the people who disliked her accent are ignorant and racist. You can’t change my opinion. My opinion’s my opinion, none of your opinion.
It’s a fiction story in a fictional universe, of course her accent may sound weird to you, wherever she is from isn’t a real place with a real language.
Am I the only who has no problem understanding her? I guess that is probably because English is not my first language so she doesnt sound so weird to me
It always amazes me how people will decide that the only legitimate accents are ones mimicking what “sounds right” to their ears and anything beyond that vague range of “traditional” dialects is “wrong.”
Hot take: I liked it, it reminded me of the one girl from the show Black Sails. I really think she only messed up a few syllables, not sure what the fuss is about, I want more!
I don't know why is everyone giving her shit, I thought she sounded really pretty. Like, slightly French? Idk. As a European, her accent didn't bother me at all.
I find this to be one of the most obnoxious criticisms of the show. Implying they’re going for an earth-based accent such as Creole is moronic. It’s a fictional world with an entirely different geography, there are going to be accents which sound absolutely nothing like anything we have in reality. It may still sound dumb, but I think it only emphasizes how different their world is from ours.
I'm not criticizing a made up accent i'm saying that its bad and it affects her performance. Maybe someone else could have done it with an ease that sounds believable but its sounds like she is reciting each word of her lines instead of a character just speaking. I love this show and its ok to criticize it, everything else is amazing.
People pick the strangest things to get worked up over. She's playing a fictional character from a fictional land. But a fictional accent is where you draw the line??? Weird flex
I guess I'm in the minority but I really don't have an opinion on fictional accents. I get it. I understand what shes saying. She's from far away and Westerosi isn't her first language.
I must be way in the minority here. Thought it was bad at first. But very interesting. It grew on me. Idk if it fits into the world of wesslteros at all
It’s actually really well done. It’s not like anything in this world because they are in a made up world. People are way too hard on this fantastic actress.
Tbf there’s a bunch of creole languages. It sounds like a Caribbean accent that becoming assimilated to a more western society (or just a westeros one). Kinda like Guyanese Creole with the queens English. They’ll over pronounce words to make it seem more proper but it comes out weird.
On rewatching GoT (I made it to s6 this time, I dunno if I can keep going though, it’s gotten so bad) but man the accents are terrible. Littlefinger seems to change constantly and Tyrion is just distracting
I don’t think it was supposed to be creole. I’m assuming an Asian accent. She has Japanese ancestry. Maybe she was trying to work it into this character.
How do you know that in a long time ago or in some future world that people don’t have transient accents such as hers? There’s nothing in the laws of physics that prohibit it.
I'm one of the few people that doesn't have a problem wti her accent. Foreigners don't always have a nice accent, especially when their mother language is spelled very differently.
Why you hating, are you from easteros? Do you know how people east of the dothraki sea talk? Why people always hating! She ain’t speaking creaole, she’s people E.A.S.TE.R.O.S.I get your geography straight.
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Littlefinger changed his accent after season 1. It's possible they could adjust it in later seasons.
He’d change mid scene
The actor himself had a great accent, it’s a shame he changed it for the show .
Play withe hur arse
God I hope so.
I never understood this criticism. His accent is unnoticeable to me.
Wasn't that an actor choice to emphasize the character's chameleon nature?
Agreed, I feel like this is inevitable considering all of the negative feedback. The show runners left the the actress, Sonoya Mizuno, out to dry deciding to go with that accent
I always thought Aiden Gillen would have been much better off if he just went with his native Irish accent for Littlefinger.
Really hoping they drop it entirely next season and let her speak with her natural accent. I honestly think viewers would forget about it after 1 episode; other characters changed accents and got recast and it was fine (in GOT)
LMAO don't insult creole people like that xD
In her first episode her accent was fine in the few lines she got then the made it a frustrating mix of accents and mispronounciations its grim
They could have just given her a normal British accent after the time-skip. It would make sense in-universe for someone like her with such a vast information network to have adapted to a Westerosi accent. I have a relative who had a thick ass Filipino accent who moved to the UK over ten years ago. Now he’s got a proper London accent after living there for so long. Ffs I’m a Filipino who lives in the Philippines but who speaks English in an American accent after watching so many American movies and cartoons growing up. Accents can change.
She reminds me of Alotta Fagina from Austin Powers.
Yeah.. and unfortunately I think the issue with this actresss/ character kinda go beyond the accent.
I think her scene with Otto in episode 9 is especially bad because it sounds like her dialogue was added in as ADR, which makes it uncanny. Her earlier scenes were pretty bad, but her reappearance at the end of the season were jarring with how awful they were, which I think is a combo of the ADR and terrible accent.
What does ADR mean?
I’m like 90% sure all her lines this season were ADR.
That’s the worst part to me, the accent was on purpose. The directors/producers really hung that actress out to dry
It really was bad. I mean I would understand a real accent but it was so weird, it sounded like a bunch of accents all in one.
It’s so bad I kind of wondered if she is in-world faking her accent.
it reminds me of how the belters talk in the expanse
And you can just tell she is trying so hard to force the words out in the "right" way. It's so distracting and makes her sound like an idiot.
I legit thought she was like a mix of a bad italian and french accent
Considering she’s actually British, it almost felt like an old timey offensive fake accent
she kinda reminds me of max from black sails.
Of course it wasn't a "real" accent because westeros and essos don't exist (it's like Santa!)
Sounds like Jar Jar Binks. I have to cut the subtitles on every time she comes on. I can only hope and pray that they listen to the audience and drop that accent. The actual actress doesn’t have one it’s like a bad Jamaican accent
They should either drop the accent and let her talk how she normally does, or go all-in and dub over her to actually talk like Jarjar.
I genuinely cried laughing because I made a joke about her sounding like Jarjar Binks to my boyfriend when we were watching. He had to pause the show because I could not stop. I'm glad I'm not the only one who though that lmao
Doesn't really have much to do with her & her accent, but I've switched to full time subtitles when watching shows & movies. 32 year old that has definitely declined in the hearing department, plus I don't necessarily have to keep the remote in my hand to adjust the volume when it goes from a character whispering to epic battle music just like that 🫰.
If only HBO subtitles were worth half a shit
Dae is no powah ba wa da peep pull allah ya to teek
Beltalowda!
Zamon i wan to be liberated Zamon i don wan to live in fear no mo
do u no da wae?
It's a shame. Her performance over all is really not bad, but you can't get past that accent.
Ey was sorry ta hehr bout da passin ov ya king.
I'm certain they did get her a dialect coach. It's not like the accent is her own decision.
Yeah i hope they just drop it for season 2 and we will never speak of it again. She is a really great character, comrade Mysaria i'm rooting for her!
My husband said the same thing. When we watched her scenes he never failed to mention that.
The accent is so bad it’s distracting. It’s also inconsistent and illogical.
In the last episode it sounded French
Didn’t mind it in the first episode, even in ep 2 it was.. fine? But in ep 9 it became too much, but luckily they can easily soften it in season 2, Shae had the perfect accent.
Shae’s actress is just German though, that’s her real accent. Idk what she was going for here
It's really sad and weird they gave her this accent cause Sonoya Mizuno is really talented, and because of it, a lot of folks don't think she is.
I was so excited to see she was in this, especially since the original series had no Asian characters at all. Except a priestess in essos in season 5 that Varys and Tyrion are watching from afar lol. But then she started talking and i was like “noooo what is happening?!!?!”
In what was she good? I'm asking seriously because it's only the second time I see her and the second time I don't really like her. I thought she was pretty bad in Devs too.
She is a wonderful actress.. idk what happened with HotD, though. It could very well be bad direction.
I just want the accent to progressively get worse every episode, just to see how it’s played off.
It’s not all her fault. There are a lot of creative decisions that actors don’t have control over.
I’m just here for all the Beltalowda comments
She's from the Free City of Lorath, like Shae on Game of Thrones. So they have her imitating Shae's accent, which in reality, was English with a Turkish accent.
Shes from Lys, isn't she?
When do they say she's from Lorath? Shae too for that matter?
More of a German accent than Turkish. Sibel Kekili was born and raised in Germany afaik.
Yes, I thought the same thing. She’s not from Westeros, and she’s been in different places her whole life so I didn’t think much of her accent at all. It made sense in the context for me.
I seriously don't know what they were thinking letting her speak like that. Its not even her real accent so there's no excuse. They (her and the show) actively made that choice, and it was a terrible one lol
They're trying to have her imitate Shae, except that was the actors real accent
Yes her real accent is more natural and lot easier to listen(and understand). Maybe it's me overthinking, but I really hope it was not showrunners' descision to be like "Oh she's (half) Asian, let's go for a weird Asian-y accent. People would think that's nore natural."
I really don’t mind it
People really be mad at a made up accent for a fantasy show.
Same
Thank you!! Crazy how outraged some people are in this thread. Like don’t you have anything else to worry about?
Gungan ?
oya, beltalowda!
I think the producers were thinking 'she's been traded all around the Summer Sea and maybe beyond, a hodge-podge of accents makes sense'.
I think it’s hot. Then again if it changes I’ll probably find her new accent hot too.
I LIKED HER ACCENT
Is Lys supposed to be the Caribbean or something?
Seeing as canonically it's basically Planetos' answer to Florence (mercantile city state, eventually ruled by a Lorenzo Medici analogue, literally have 'gonfaloniere' as a noble title), they 'should' be Italian.
Seriously she was talking normally episodes 1 & 2 then she just became Jamaican
..TIL this sub has no idea what Jamaican people sound like
I haven’t rewatched the show yet so maybe my memory is just off, but I swear her accent changed throughout the show. The Jamaican-like accent we hear in her final appearance of the season didn’t seem to be the same as her earlier appearances.
What accents do you find not bad? This questions goes for real and fantasy ones.
I really don't have a problem with this accent. It's a made up accent for a made up world. I understand people having an issue with it sounding like a fake french creole accent, but I justify it by saying it's influenced by some other accent in this made-up world.
Real accents. I hate accents that just sound like “generic foreign accent 2.”
The problem isn't the accent itself, it's that she sounds like someone pretending to do an accent instead of someone who has an accent.
Man, I knew I was in the minority, but I feel she's selling the HELL out of that accent. She gives some of her backstory and she's from a Free City, but was also sold and traveled around, ending up in King's Landing. Wouldn't it make sense that her accent is a weird amalgamation of a bunch of different (fictional) places?
You hit the nail on the head and I’m on the exact same page. I legit had no idea so many people disliked her accent.
It's not supposed to be a Creole accent. There's no such thing as a Creole accent in Westeros. Her accent can be anything distinct from other characters' accents.
this. the reason people think it sounds off is because they think it's supposed to sound a certain way to begin with. which it's not.
I mean, there's no England in Westeros either. I think it just stands out to people because it's the only accent in the show not based on a real world nationality. (That we know of).
Yeah, I don't understand the upset for this reason. It's a fantasy show. Who cares if the accent is recognizable or not?
yeah but it sounded like weird ass creole. We know its a fictional show, and not a documentary.
I kind of hear a sort of weird French Polynesian/Vietnamese thing, which would be in theme with the whole oppressed background she has.
Saying it’s sounds like one..
it's like an AI was played every accent there was and was asked to create a new one combining them all.
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I actually thought she was dubbed in scenes. Something about the voice felt disconnected.
Interesting! In the French version of the show she speaks totally normally, with no particular accent. Sometimes we do not perceive a character in the same way depending on the dubbing.
Ey dun no wat yar takkin about her aczent iz todali fine tu mi, on a real tho whoever cast her knowing her accent was this bad or if she’s faking the accent and they kept it in has to be fired. Her acting is fine it’s just hearing her speak is cringeworthy
Creole is one of my favorite accents and i refuse to hear this slander
I thought it was unique 😂😂
its funny cause i speak like that too and i’m dutch
Reminded me of Kendra in Buffy season 1!
Am i only one who liked her accent?
Unpopular opinion but i love it and even think it is sexy.
I’m not a native english speaker so idgaf how her accent sounds.
I actually liked it. According to me, the people who disliked her accent are ignorant and racist. You can’t change my opinion. My opinion’s my opinion, none of your opinion.
Am I the only one who didn’t have a problem with her or her accent? She was attractive to me idc
It’s a fiction story in a fictional universe, of course her accent may sound weird to you, wherever she is from isn’t a real place with a real language.
Who gives a flying fuck about her accent she’s insanely sexy! Jeez
Am I the only who has no problem understanding her? I guess that is probably because English is not my first language so she doesnt sound so weird to me
Why is an accent such a pain point for this fan base? Who gives a crap guys.. it's all about plot and pacing. Who cares how they sound lol!
Idk. I wasn’t as bothered as everyone else seems to be about it. But I’m probably just weird
It always amazes me how people will decide that the only legitimate accents are ones mimicking what “sounds right” to their ears and anything beyond that vague range of “traditional” dialects is “wrong.”
Hot take: I liked it, it reminded me of the one girl from the show Black Sails. I really think she only messed up a few syllables, not sure what the fuss is about, I want more!
People, it’s a fake world accent. It can be whatever it wants to be and in no way does it need to be an existing accent
I don’t know why the the bluntness of “her accent is the worst thing I have ever heard” made me laugh out loud
I don't know why is everyone giving her shit, I thought she sounded really pretty. Like, slightly French? Idk. As a European, her accent didn't bother me at all.
I thought it was fine. I like her having a creole-ish accent.
Agreed.
I find this to be one of the most obnoxious criticisms of the show. Implying they’re going for an earth-based accent such as Creole is moronic. It’s a fictional world with an entirely different geography, there are going to be accents which sound absolutely nothing like anything we have in reality. It may still sound dumb, but I think it only emphasizes how different their world is from ours.
I'm not criticizing a made up accent i'm saying that its bad and it affects her performance. Maybe someone else could have done it with an ease that sounds believable but its sounds like she is reciting each word of her lines instead of a character just speaking. I love this show and its ok to criticize it, everything else is amazing.
Y'all are easily annoyed
People pick the strangest things to get worked up over. She's playing a fictional character from a fictional land. But a fictional accent is where you draw the line??? Weird flex
Crazy creole coona$$ here and dat ain't right bruh us cajuns got us some real good accents
Mais brah
Who gives a shit
I guess I'm in the minority but I really don't have an opinion on fictional accents. I get it. I understand what shes saying. She's from far away and Westerosi isn't her first language.
Does it have to have a real world counterpart? It doesn't bother me at all because I'm not trying to make it fit a real accent
I must be way in the minority here. Thought it was bad at first. But very interesting. It grew on me. Idk if it fits into the world of wesslteros at all
Holy shit, do we really need another one of this same fucking thread? We get it, yall don't like the accent, get over it.
I found it hot
It’s actually really well done. It’s not like anything in this world because they are in a made up world. People are way too hard on this fantastic actress.
Somehow I’m the only person who loves it. Weird and don’t understand. Didn’t even cross my mind when I first heard it.
She’s hot
It was fine at first but whatever French Caribbean something or other it suddenly became really took me out of her later scenes.
She sounded like a belter from The Expanse
It was so clear she was trying to sound foreign in a fake country. I don’t know why she did that
legit sounded like a french man having a stroke
It’s definitely NOT creole ‼️
So bad. I had to turn on CC to understand what she was saying. Very distracting.
Cajun/Creole here! Definately not either.
I think she’s supposed to have the same accent as Shae, so I see the similarities, but she needs to speed it up or something. It’s just so… unnatural.
And she’s a talented actress, which is even weirder. I’m very confused why someone didn’t call a timeout and say what in the hell is this accent.
She does the accent we did as kids when we were trying to sound French. “Dis iz ze wah ah spek!”
You don't like the accent in a fake world but you never know where it could originate in a fake world. Why does it have to be an Earth accent?
I thought it was the sexiest in s 1.
Tbf there’s a bunch of creole languages. It sounds like a Caribbean accent that becoming assimilated to a more western society (or just a westeros one). Kinda like Guyanese Creole with the queens English. They’ll over pronounce words to make it seem more proper but it comes out weird.
Relevant
Deh blue toosh devoysh ish conneykted shucceshfoolay
It's not Creole, it's wherever her character is from.
On rewatching GoT (I made it to s6 this time, I dunno if I can keep going though, it’s gotten so bad) but man the accents are terrible. Littlefinger seems to change constantly and Tyrion is just distracting
I find it hot af.
She sounds like tia dalma from the Pirates movies
Don’t ever go to Lys, you’ll be super annoyed.
I don’t think it was supposed to be creole. I’m assuming an Asian accent. She has Japanese ancestry. Maybe she was trying to work it into this character.
It was Jamaican or something. It was fine. Get over it retard
Creole? Isn’t this a fictional world? Pretty sure creole doesn’t exist 🤷🏻
Daarrrrk sistaaaaaa
It was hot.
Here's a person the accent is based off of. Sounds like her to me.
She's trying-and failing-to imitate Shae.
Her accent is what a western actor thinks a Middle East accent sounds like.
How do you know that in a long time ago or in some future world that people don’t have transient accents such as hers? There’s nothing in the laws of physics that prohibit it.
In that last appearance she sounded like Davy Jones’s lady friend from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.
I'm one of the few people that doesn't have a problem wti her accent. Foreigners don't always have a nice accent, especially when their mother language is spelled very differently.
Where on a map of Westeros/Essos can you see Haiti? Nowhere. So is it supposed to be a Creole accent? Probably not.
it wasn't that bad, I thought it was fine. Stop overacting, the show was good
man why’d you have to say something everyone was turning a blind eye so she wouldn’t get bullied it’s not really a big deal she’s a smaller character
Jeez, people can't handle something that is different apparently.
Am I the only one who actually likes it? I had no idea it was a big issue for many
Where's Haiti? Off the coast of Essos?
Why is it that sex workers=immigrants anyway with this show
I don't mind it. Might even like it 🤷♂️
We shitting on HoTD now?
she sounded québécois !!!
What are you comparing an accent to from a TV show in a made up universe
I don't know if it's because I'm not native english speaker but I really did not mind her accent
I love her and don’t think it was bad.
So?
Unpopular opinion: its fine and people care way too much
I really hope Sonoya is not on Reddit.
I like her accent.
It's a fantasy show, it's an accent for a region that doesn't exist 🤦♂️🤣
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it was pretty difficult to listen to, and distracting
It’s not that it doesn’t sound real, it’s just super grating to listen to. It’s jarring and drags you out of the scene.
Yea the issue is consistency though.
It's like Jar Jar Binks but 100xs worse.
Did people really have a problem with her accent? It was fine.
Coonass here. Can confirm, very creole
She is the "Shae" of this show, terrible and completely takes me out of the show whenever she speaks.
I love it. It's different and she's beautiful.
Took you out of the scene and element.
It’s a made up world with made up regions and made up accents…
Why you hating, are you from easteros? Do you know how people east of the dothraki sea talk? Why people always hating! She ain’t speaking creaole, she’s people E.A.S.TE.R.O.S.I get your geography straight.
…Because you know what an accent should sound like in a fantasy world? Just relax.