Can we take a moment and appreciate Game Freak finally designing a fully evolved quadrupedal fire type starter that isn’t furry bait and takes the more animalistic approach?
Also the fact the flames don't change color in its shiny form is slightly disappointing. Shiny itself is alright (best of the starters, though not hard), but its not great because of this.
I named mine aloof, because fuecoco has not a single thought in his brain, and I love him for that. Skeledirge looks like it can generate a coherent thought, but only when it’s two floating braincells bump into each other 🥰
Named mine Saltbae after Saltwater Crocodiles and it being a starter, didn't even realise it was ghost till I read it on here. Stayed in box mostly so I'm not overlevelled for gyms.
I love it so much. Honestly my favorite starter since Mudkip and Swampert. I love the design, the the patches of color on its head, the little bird-microphone. Such an amazing creative and cool pokemon, Skeledirge.
I like this fella a lot! I wish the white on the torso was solid rather than segmented, and the white on the base of the tail wasn’t so thin compared to the torso, but otherwise great design! Flat Fire Fuck
Still sooooo sad about Sprigatito standing up, though! 😭It could have been so much better as a cool Iberian lynx or something running around on all fours and swiping at enemies with its claws.
It’s also heavily underrated for some reason, I still stand by the fact that it’s the best SV starter. Maybe not competitively but just in general design.
I’m pretty sure he’s the most popular in terms of design. Basically every one I know in real life picked Fuecoco, especially as the final evolutions of the other two are…divisive at best.
not only it has an animal design but it ALSO has a job/gimmick/role on its design. it's a singer, the bird becomes a microphone and sings WITHOUT looking like he could pay taxes. you can still have cool designs based on jobs or people without making them look they should have rights to vote
Honestly I hate him, my baby that looked like a little apple grows up into a literal clown. T.T if they had taken more of like a day of the dead approach to his final form I’d be a lot happier.
It just looks too freaking weird to me. All the straight white lines makes it look robotic. Also I hate how they made the teeth look like part of its skin. Looking at this design next to something like Charizard makes me sad for what could have been.
Fuecoco/Skeledirge is the best boy. Torch Song is the single best move ever. A fire chicken from your heard turning into a microphone stand for a ghost crocodile to sing waves of fire birds at his enemies. Perfection.
I absolutely love this starter he was called ugly by everyone and he tanks earthquake and stone edge like a champ all while dishing out good damage it's a legit zero to hero moment.
Can we take a moment to appreciate that it is a fantasy game and not all pokemon need to be crawling or slithering to be appreciated as the pokemon they are instead of seeing everything on two legs as some kind of 'furry bait'?
As soon as I evolved into this dude I knew it was my #1 of the gen. Like you cannot look at this mfer and compare him to anything else. There's another badass ghost/fie in this gen and it doesn't even compare despite being rad as hell too. Literally an insta favorite of all time
I love Skeledirge. I started with Fuecoco and the ONLY thing I regret is that there's so many good Ghost-types this gen I'm having to fight the urge to run a mono-ghost team. I already have two! I can't justify adding a third!
The other starters are only furry bait if you think they are. I think they all look cool. The duck is suave, the cat is a robin hood and the croc has lil fire birb
I've heard this before but honestly I just can't see it. And i've actually tried. The fact that the white face and head carries down to the snout prevents me from seeing it as anything other than a crocidle. And the flames just look like flames to me and not much else
Fuecoco was already my pick as soon as the starters were revealed. Then, when the starters evos were leaked, then I became 200% sure of my pick when I saw Skeledirge.
I agree with this. They did well surprisingly. I like its cry as well. It's kinda a howl which is pleasing to know it matches its typing and animal looks
I have zero idea what it's a reference to (if it is a reference), why is there a bird here, why does it turn into a microphone and why the crocodile can sing.
I am loving that one. I chose the grass starter purely because I wanted to use Annihilape and didn't want to have two ghost types in my party but my next play through I am 100% going with Fuecoco. I'm so sick of biped starters.
I like skeledirge but it’s annoying everyone is saying it’s good cause it’s quadruped, that’s not a good reason to like a Pokémon. It’s quite annoying to see actually pretty good and inspired designs (in my opinion cinderace and meowscarada are some good examples of this) just to be brushed off as furbait
The unnecessary ambient effects of skeleridge and quaquavle is just throwing me off. The over design gives more like a legendary pokemon vibes than a regular pokemon
What the hell does “furry bait” even mean at this point? I highly doubt that Gamefreak’s designers create Pokémon specifically to cater to a niche, ridiculed subculture on the internet. Does it just mean “anthropomorphic animal”? If so, why is it used in such a negative context? Why is the classification of “anthropomorphic animal” a bad thing when it’s a common monster design trope that’s being used in a monster collecting/trading/fighting game?
One of the things that differs Pokemon from other monster games is that it ostensibly takes place in a "real" world. There's a reason why for example in gen 1 instead of bright glowing fire slime and ice slime, our slime was made of urban pollution. It set the tone that these are monsters but they're also just animals, part of the normal ecosystem, and while the world was a bit fantastic relative to ours the pokemon setting is about the most grounded and mundane a major JRPG had ever been.
Unpopular opinion I actually like the green cats final evolution. At first I hated it but it definitely grew on top of me. The typing is horrible though. Reminds me of gardevoir. Quaxly… well they can’t go 3/3
My only wish is they didn't have the fire coming out. It's design makes it look like hair so he looked like Danny DeVito lmaoo. Easily one of my favorite starters of the past like 3 gens though. The design pretty seamlessly incorporates multiple themes and inspirations: the relationship between Crocs and plover birds, sugar skulls/dia de Los muertos, a traditional instrument which name i forget (it's why his body is blocky and he has the color patches on his nose, they're keys), etc. Just a super well thought out design that actually feels like a pokemon rather than a pokemon in a human costume.
Oooh, I'll have to look into the instrument. I hated the weird blocky additions and wacky proportions, but if there's an actual reason I'd be more okay with it
While I agree with everything in your title, unfortunately i still hate the design. This photo in this artistic styling is the best it’s design has looked to me but the awful super rounded rendering that the actual game provides for this Pokémon looks absolutely awful since it’s such a blocky Pokémon.
This entire evolution was a breath of fresh air. I can do without the fire bird on its nose but I appreciate the actual beast on all fours. These humanoids are EXHAUSTING.
Imo this is the only good starter this game. Sprigatito started off ok but then went bipedal which ruined it and quaxly just looked awful from the start sorry quaxly fans but he is just an ugly Pokémon and Fuecoco looked decent at first the 2nd evolution isn’t great but the final one looks great no bipedal sexualised shit like normal finally a good one close to the greatness of the original gen 1 starters.
I love his cry
Bwoooooooh
Like a baby Reaper
I swear they actually just remixed the sound real crocodiles make.
They even have bird on nose!!!
Which turns into a mic :D
Crocalor even has an egg on his head
Look it’s not Feriligatr but it’s pretty cool. All the crocodiles/alligators and lizards are pretty good designs.
TIL the red ball is a bird, not a clown nose
Actually why is it a bird? Is it a reference to something? Seems oddly specific
My only gripe is the weird blocky flames, but otherwise yeah it’s cool
It looks like clown hair to me. In no way does it resemble actual fire.
I love it though because it looks unique, and well I play minecraft.
Also the fact the flames don't change color in its shiny form is slightly disappointing. Shiny itself is alright (best of the starters, though not hard), but its not great because of this.
Also I wish they've done something more with his tail
I'm so mildly pissed
And water type starts on 2 legs, stays on 2 legs
Grass: Quadraped that becomes biped
And I start with 2 legs, goes to 6
At this point I think they have to be.
Ehh Fuecoco whole like is super close to the ground
4 legs good, 2 legs bad
Grass type could have been a super cool forest-kinda panther but they had to make it R34
Where are these high quality art coming from?
scans of the official scarlet/violet artbooks
His cry is just as good as his design.
This is actually the first fully quadrapedal fire starter we’ve had.
Wtf that’s actually mad really??
All I can think of when I see this guy is "Let's make music together"
Skeledirge is the best! I named mine Irwin to honor the late, great Steve Irwin.
I named mine Gustave, a infamous crocodile that ate like 300 people 😂
i named mine wallace bc i thought it was a funny name for a crocodile
Mine is called Frankie, after the great Frank Sinatra
Mine is named Croquerto, from Crocodile and Muerto (dead in Spanish)
My girl is called Croco Chanel
I named mine Leviamon, as that’s what it reminded me of. Big red croc. Love it.
I named mine aloof, because fuecoco has not a single thought in his brain, and I love him for that. Skeledirge looks like it can generate a coherent thought, but only when it’s two floating braincells bump into each other 🥰
Named mine Saltbae after Saltwater Crocodiles and it being a starter, didn't even realise it was ghost till I read it on here. Stayed in box mostly so I'm not overlevelled for gyms.
Chompy.
Named mine “Hotodile”
Mines Crikey for obvious reasons
Mine is One Chip.
I had a Krookodile in my Black 2 playthrough named Irwin!
Mine is Tick-Tock
I called my female croc Terri. If it was a boy, he would have been Steve.
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I love it so much. Honestly my favorite starter since Mudkip and Swampert. I love the design, the the patches of color on its head, the little bird-microphone. Such an amazing creative and cool pokemon, Skeledirge.
sure sure, but look at his eyes, he's still dumb and that whats important!
I'm even more happy it finally killed that dumb zodiac theory
What's the dumb zodiac theory? I love bad video game theories.
A male crocodile is a...
It baffles me why so many people were so hostile to this theory. It's just a harmless little theory that had a lot of backing behind it
me too man
How is it dumb if 7 of the fire type starters have matched it pretty much perfectly??
You know, in a way a snake is just a legless crocodile
I like that the tail looks a little like a song note
This is my favorite starter final evo ever. I love that it's based on a Nile croc and polver bird and I love Pokemon that are "two in one".
I love all the starter designs this generation so fricken much, still picked sprigatto, because lol, it's a weedcat.
You underestimate furries
"Jokes on you, I'm into that shit!"
I like this fella a lot! I wish the white on the torso was solid rather than segmented, and the white on the base of the tail wasn’t so thin compared to the torso, but otherwise great design! Flat Fire Fuck
Yes I really like the animalistic approach on the new Pokemon. Especially the dogs🥰
Still sooooo sad about Sprigatito standing up, though! 😭It could have been so much better as a cool Iberian lynx or something running around on all fours and swiping at enemies with its claws.
Heck not even just standing up. It became such a goofy Seuss looking figure and unintentionally so.
It’s also heavily underrated for some reason, I still stand by the fact that it’s the best SV starter. Maybe not competitively but just in general design.
Maybe not heavily competitive, but I think more so than the others.
I'm glad it's a croc and that it's on all fours, but the design itself is jank as all hell and kinda hard to look at.
Ngl I think it’s ugly but any Pokémon that isn’t cute is ugly to me.
I’m pretty sure he’s the most popular in terms of design. Basically every one I know in real life picked Fuecoco, especially as the final evolutions of the other two are…divisive at best.
My partner had never played and watched him evolve over my shoulder and GEEKED. I love my singing gator.
not only it has an animal design but it ALSO has a job/gimmick/role on its design. it's a singer, the bird becomes a microphone and sings WITHOUT looking like he could pay taxes. you can still have cool designs based on jobs or people without making them look they should have rights to vote
Whoa, this is the first time I've seen the final Fuecoco evolution. That looks pretty awesome
Nobody cares about furries but y'all.
It's the best starter of this gen and easily best one we had in a while!
Honestly I hate him, my baby that looked like a little apple grows up into a literal clown. T.T if they had taken more of like a day of the dead approach to his final form I’d be a lot happier.
They did...
They literally did that tho
It just looks too freaking weird to me. All the straight white lines makes it look robotic. Also I hate how they made the teeth look like part of its skin. Looking at this design next to something like Charizard makes me sad for what could have been.
Fuecoco/Skeledirge is the best boy. Torch Song is the single best move ever. A fire chicken from your heard turning into a microphone stand for a ghost crocodile to sing waves of fire birds at his enemies. Perfection.
I absolutely love this starter he was called ugly by everyone and he tanks earthquake and stone edge like a champ all while dishing out good damage it's a legit zero to hero moment.
I picked him in Scarlet, and I love him, but I want the zesty duck.
Fuecoco had more potential, but yeah you gotta give it to them.
I love his signature move
Can we take a moment to appreciate that it is a fantasy game and not all pokemon need to be crawling or slithering to be appreciated as the pokemon they are instead of seeing everything on two legs as some kind of 'furry bait'?
As soon as I evolved into this dude I knew it was my #1 of the gen. Like you cannot look at this mfer and compare him to anything else. There's another badass ghost/fie in this gen and it doesn't even compare despite being rad as hell too. Literally an insta favorite of all time
Ceruledge just looks out of place for a Pokémon imo
I love Skeledirge. I started with Fuecoco and the ONLY thing I regret is that there's so many good Ghost-types this gen I'm having to fight the urge to run a mono-ghost team. I already have two! I can't justify adding a third!
The other starters are only furry bait if you think they are. I think they all look cool. The duck is suave, the cat is a robin hood and the croc has lil fire birb
I think the duck is more fabulous than suave. lol
I chose tham as my started and love them. However... It looks like a clown: Face paint. Big red nose. The silly hair...
Why would you say this to me
It’s based on “dia de los muertos” face paint / masks. A holiday celebrated in Spain and Mexico that honors the dead.
I've heard this before but honestly I just can't see it. And i've actually tried. The fact that the white face and head carries down to the snout prevents me from seeing it as anything other than a crocidle. And the flames just look like flames to me and not much else
I love my firey Juggalo mon
Have you seen the flames animated? It looks way better
You underestimate furry’s they got rule 34 on their side
Idk about you but I can’t wait for my life sized Meowmarada.
Fuecoco was already my pick as soon as the starters were revealed. Then, when the starters evos were leaked, then I became 200% sure of my pick when I saw Skeledirge.
Hell yeah
I agree with this. They did well surprisingly. I like its cry as well. It's kinda a howl which is pleasing to know it matches its typing and animal looks
Do you need the same copy of the game to play co-op? Or can one player have scarlet and the other violet?
You can have different versions
I get that Skeledirge is supposed to evoke Día de Muertos, but someone said it looks like a Juggalo and I can't really unseen it.
I have zero idea what it's a reference to (if it is a reference), why is there a bird here, why does it turn into a microphone and why the crocodile can sing.
Having no other context a Dirge is a song that you sing for the dead
Love him. Just wish they leaned more into a ghost pepper croc type thing.
I love skeledirge it's so cool. Just like all other fire/ghost pokemon lol
to some that's totally furry bait
Don't care! Crocodile :D
Amen
Does the little bird have a name or identity or is it just his fire?
I love em lol I haven’t liked a starter this much since swampert in Gen 3
i love this guy and i am happy that i picked him.
I love it
My bf got so mad when he saw the final evolution lol he said “ i don’t want know no crocodile clown” 🤡 😂
I said the same thing to my wife!
They finally did it. They finally made a fire type that breaks the mold. I’m impressed. It’s not perfect, but it’s currently the best they’ve done
Yes, we can. I fucking love this fire vocalist gator~
No. I wanted a fire version of Feraligator
Looks like a bad guy from megaman X
I didn’t like it at first, but it’s grown on me.
I love it!!!!
I am loving that one. I chose the grass starter purely because I wanted to use Annihilape and didn't want to have two ghost types in my party but my next play through I am 100% going with Fuecoco. I'm so sick of biped starters.
I like skeledirge but it’s annoying everyone is saying it’s good cause it’s quadruped, that’s not a good reason to like a Pokémon. It’s quite annoying to see actually pretty good and inspired designs (in my opinion cinderace and meowscarada are some good examples of this) just to be brushed off as furbait
I’m glad I chose the fire type
And it looks ugly and not cool
I don't know man that bird on its head sure is sexy lol
The unnecessary ambient effects of skeleridge and quaquavle is just throwing me off. The over design gives more like a legendary pokemon vibes than a regular pokemon
The bad thing about Skeledirge is that its original form is Fuecoco which is peak design... All its other evos are worst in comparison
But what’s going on with the rigidness of its body
I prefer my grass cat tbh
Yeeaahhh... But it looks... so... STUPID!!
What the hell does “furry bait” even mean at this point? I highly doubt that Gamefreak’s designers create Pokémon specifically to cater to a niche, ridiculed subculture on the internet. Does it just mean “anthropomorphic animal”? If so, why is it used in such a negative context? Why is the classification of “anthropomorphic animal” a bad thing when it’s a common monster design trope that’s being used in a monster collecting/trading/fighting game?
CEO of Game Freak willingly came out and said he loves furries and wants to input as much of the culture into their games.
Because furries love said pokemon! Also biped pokemon as pets is as creepy as having the rake as a pet
One of the things that differs Pokemon from other monster games is that it ostensibly takes place in a "real" world. There's a reason why for example in gen 1 instead of bright glowing fire slime and ice slime, our slime was made of urban pollution. It set the tone that these are monsters but they're also just animals, part of the normal ecosystem, and while the world was a bit fantastic relative to ours the pokemon setting is about the most grounded and mundane a major JRPG had ever been.
Unpopular opinion I actually like the green cats final evolution. At first I hated it but it definitely grew on top of me. The typing is horrible though. Reminds me of gardevoir. Quaxly… well they can’t go 3/3
I don't like it it reminds me of a toothpaste tube
It kinda does, doesn't it
What's with his eyes tho?
The other 2 starters made up for it. Lol.
My only wish is they didn't have the fire coming out. It's design makes it look like hair so he looked like Danny DeVito lmaoo. Easily one of my favorite starters of the past like 3 gens though. The design pretty seamlessly incorporates multiple themes and inspirations: the relationship between Crocs and plover birds, sugar skulls/dia de Los muertos, a traditional instrument which name i forget (it's why his body is blocky and he has the color patches on his nose, they're keys), etc. Just a super well thought out design that actually feels like a pokemon rather than a pokemon in a human costume.
Oooh, I'll have to look into the instrument. I hated the weird blocky additions and wacky proportions, but if there's an actual reason I'd be more okay with it
Skeledirge is amazing 🧡
While I agree with everything in your title, unfortunately i still hate the design. This photo in this artistic styling is the best it’s design has looked to me but the awful super rounded rendering that the actual game provides for this Pokémon looks absolutely awful since it’s such a blocky Pokémon.
I just can't get over his polygonal body and clown-like head.
Uh no thanks, ugly ahh fucka
Yes.... but both grass and water takes that role now. :P
I hate that thing it's sooo ugly...
Me too it has fucking clown hair I hate it
Anybody willing to trade me a feucoco? I got sprigatita and quaxly to trade
Check out Austin John Plays' "Trade Codes for Version Exclusive Pokemon & Paradoxes in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet". There are also codes for starters
Whoever added a bunch of squares onto him, I am no longer going to pick him for my playthrough
Thank you. Really thank you. At freaking last. It is my favourite pokemon this generation
If only they took the same approach with the other two starters
This entire evolution was a breath of fresh air. I can do without the fire bird on its nose but I appreciate the actual beast on all fours. These humanoids are EXHAUSTING.
Too many human types lately. They even hug and kiss you, a bit disgusting.
That's not a pokemon, that's your mom
To me it looks more like a cheap plastic dinosaur
Still has ugly looking proportions
YES! finally people open their eyes to this.
Heck yes!
he looks like a circus clown 🤡
Furry bait 💀
Imo this is the only good starter this game. Sprigatito started off ok but then went bipedal which ruined it and quaxly just looked awful from the start sorry quaxly fans but he is just an ugly Pokémon and Fuecoco looked decent at first the 2nd evolution isn’t great but the final one looks great no bipedal sexualised shit like normal finally a good one close to the greatness of the original gen 1 starters.
But is it good? No I dont like it
They screwed up Quaxky. It had si much potential and ended up looking ugly.
Yes but they did quaxly wrong imo. Could have made him look like a conquistador.
No
Still looks fugly
I boxed him and nicknamed my Krookodile Skeledirge instead. I don’t like the way Skeledirge looks. The flames/marigolds look bad to me.
I call him Nemesis The Warcroc.
He’s the very best Like no one ever was😅
Is this the official art?
Its what made my final decision. Was about to go with grass
He's just a chompy boi
The last one was in gen 5
It’s perfection
Yes and his inspirations are awesome
Why is it not a snake
Why on earth would a crocodile turn into a snake?
And yet he doesn’t receive enough love…
We haven’t had a quadruped starter final evo since samurott
“Not furry bait.” Don’t give them a challenge!
That’s why I picked him!
Just one of the reasons it's my starter.
Furry bait or not, i love a good fire starter for my team
Yes we can.
My poor son loved Litten and Torracat only to be appalled at the final evolution
Where are the official artworks coming from? Seen a few now 🤔 is it from corroco or something?
I like that it's an animal pokemon... I don't like it, maybe it's their patterns or something but I should have picked sprigatito
Yes 🔥🤝💯
It's like Game Freak forgot pokemon, is supposed to mean pocket monsters.
ok i rlly didnt like this design at first, but i think its actually growing on me a bit