I think it was reasonable if any of these guys won. Goldschmidt winning is pretty huge for his HOF case. Always wanted him to win after those 2nd place finishes in Arizona. Got stuck behind Cutch in ‘13, Harper in ‘15, and Stanton/Votto in ‘17.
Sheesh. I didn't realize he was a three time runner-up. I don't think this award quite makes him a HoF lock, but you're right, it definitely helps his cause.
I think he's pretty much a lock unless his career ends overnight, and even if it did he'd still have a pretty solid chance. 58.5 WAR is a tiny bit below where he would want to be but an MVP and several other close calls should put him over the top.
I think the main thing that hurts Goldschmidt's chances at the HOF is the fact that he didn't become an All-Star player until he was 25. He came into the league at 23. He's not someone like Harper or Trout where they were AS caliber players at 19 or 20 years old right when they got to the league. Although I do think Goldschmidt will get in, because I don't see him just falling off a cliff after this MVP season.
For real! Big congrats to that guy! Dude gets the yips in 2013, bounces around five teams in four years, retires in 2017, becomes a coach in 2018, then comes back to playing two years later, and now gets an MVP vote? Wild.
I’ve lived in STL past 18 years but lived in Tucson before that. Have a lot of respect for the DBacks. I like seeing them do well, but the Goldy signing was my favorite Cardinal signing of my lifetime. He is the consummate pro and goes about it the right way. I just hope we can get him and Arenado a deep postseason run before their prime passes.
congrats to Paul! sure wish I could watch this awards show... its not on my local sports stations and you can't watch mlb network online... legally anyway....
i dislike Arenado because of the whole incident between him and the Mets, but honestly it should’ve been much closer. Goldy was really fucking good, but so was Arenado. pretty sad the Cards didn’t make it farther
Dominant reliever with the red sox ages ago until he got the yips because someone decided to make him a starter. Finally figured out how to pitch again and came back to the majors with Colorado a couple years back. He had ~3.8 WAR this year which is dang good for a reliever
So now you can stop worrying about something that doesn't exist right? There is no vote splitting in ranked choice voting, it's why it is the superior type of voting
I'm fine with Goldy winning but you can make a case. (1) Manny has higher WAR than either Goldy or Arenado; (2) with Tatis out, Manny was the only MVP caliber player for most of the year--Goldy could lean on Arenado but Manny had little backup in lineup; (3) Manny's stats would have been better but played injured for a month + on a bad ankle because he was basically irreplaceable.
My only argument was Machado was more valuable to his team than Goldy was to his. Especially with that incredible tear Pujols went off on to end the season.
Is it because of how stacked Dodgers are that Freemen finished 5th? Looked up Freemen's stats and they're pretty good too compared to Goldy's and Freemen had identical bWAR
I think goldy being a triple crown threat late into the season and and being the best player in the league by a good margin for months on end until his collapse helped a ton. I think most voters had him commented into their mind as mvp by September.
Fuck the downvoters so much. Steroid use keeps people out of the Hall, betting does as well, but this guy does something that kills people and he's still in the convo for the HoF? Why?
I think it was reasonable if any of these guys won. Goldschmidt winning is pretty huge for his HOF case. Always wanted him to win after those 2nd place finishes in Arizona. Got stuck behind Cutch in ‘13, Harper in ‘15, and Stanton/Votto in ‘17.
Sheesh. I didn't realize he was a three time runner-up. I don't think this award quite makes him a HoF lock, but you're right, it definitely helps his cause.
I think he's pretty much a lock unless his career ends overnight, and even if it did he'd still have a pretty solid chance. 58.5 WAR is a tiny bit below where he would want to be but an MVP and several other close calls should put him over the top.
Definitely doesn’t hurt, lol.
Seems like he’s almost a lock assuming normal career regression
I think the main thing that hurts Goldschmidt's chances at the HOF is the fact that he didn't become an All-Star player until he was 25. He came into the league at 23. He's not someone like Harper or Trout where they were AS caliber players at 19 or 20 years old right when they got to the league. Although I do think Goldschmidt will get in, because I don't see him just falling off a cliff after this MVP season.
Daniel Bard got a top 10 vote. Don’t let your dreams be dreams kids.
I knew it had to be Tracy Ringolsby before I checked ... and it was. Fucking goober.
Same number of points as Schwarber
For real! Big congrats to that guy! Dude gets the yips in 2013, bounces around five teams in four years, retires in 2017, becomes a coach in 2018, then comes back to playing two years later, and now gets an MVP vote? Wild.
Cardinals first basemen and MVPs, can you name a better combo?
Former Cardinals winning unanimous Cy Youngs 😞
The Cardinals using bad NL West orgs as a farm system for mvp candidates
"Goddamn right!....wait!"
I am overflowing with joy. Goldy!
Pete Alonso is too high. Who the hell gave him a second place vote
Rick Hummel of the STL Post Dispatch, also known as the guy that gave Ryan Tepera an MVP vote
Rick Hummel of St. Louis Post-Dispatch
I want to know who gave Julio Urías a 3rd place vote without ranking Alcantara higher.
Me. I did. I gave Pete the second place vote.
5 Mets got votes wut
That’s my dad
Tim Lincecum's brother?
My brother from another mother!!
HE COULDA BEEN OURS
Never heard of him... :'(
Arenado must've pissed off one of the voters. 8th?
it's from a Colorado writer that put Urias at three... idk what to make of that.
Coors
Manny now has an MVP-2,3,4,5
Call me a homer but I look at this list and think it should have been him.
Congrats to Goldy! Will always be a Dback in my heart!
I’ve lived in STL past 18 years but lived in Tucson before that. Have a lot of respect for the DBacks. I like seeing them do well, but the Goldy signing was my favorite Cardinal signing of my lifetime. He is the consummate pro and goes about it the right way. I just hope we can get him and Arenado a deep postseason run before their prime passes.
Happy to finally see him win the award, he deserves this just wish he could have won one or two with us
Congrats to Goldy. Still love you Manny
His fourth top 5 finish this time finishing at second sucks he didn’t win but can’t be mad goldy won he had an outstanding season.
Great season, Goldy, incredibly well deserved. Manny, we know you’re going to get one, it’s only a matter of time!
Highest finish for a Padre since Cami. Third year in a row a Padre is a finalist? Good news overall.
I think every team in the MLB has had an MVP on their team at some point besides the Dbacks until now.
And Keith, who won with the Cardinals
daniel bard mvp vote 🤣
About time, one of the most underrated players ever
Let's go!!!!! He'll need it more than Nolan for his HoF case so this is perfect!
It truly is!
Good shit Goldy. Love it
Happy for Goldy, thankful it wasn’t terrorizing #NLBest this time around
Paul Goldschmidt had a batting average of .356 with 42 hits, 8 homers, 29 RBIs and 24 runs scored in 31 games against the NL West in 2022.
Cards and d backs fans over the moon rn
Hall of Famer Paul Goldschmidt
Yep, this might mean he goes in with a blank cap, so that has to be bittersweet for DBacks fans.
If steroids and betting keep people out of the HoF why shouldn't being antivaxx do it too? I mean that shit actually kills people.
MVP!
Nice, grats Goldy!
About time!!!
Well deserved. Goldy is a great player and has been knocking on the door of a MVP for years. Congrats.
Daniel Bard will forever go down in history as receiving MVP votes
congrats to Paul! sure wish I could watch this awards show... its not on my local sports stations and you can't watch mlb network online... legally anyway....
Tracy Ringolsby of Denver listed Arenado 8th? Hmm…
Ranked choice voting..now what if we just….USE IT FOR ALL VOTING
Hey, Paul!
Try winning an MVP now!!!!
Goldschmidt finally got his deserved MVP let's gooooo
Congrats to him, but I’m shocked Arenado only got one first place vote. I thought it would be a much closer race between the two Cardinals.
i dislike Arenado because of the whole incident between him and the Mets, but honestly it should’ve been much closer. Goldy was really fucking good, but so was Arenado. pretty sad the Cards didn’t make it farther
FACTS
Look at wheels Molina overtaking Goldy in a dead sprint. How the hell is that happening?
Lots of NL East on here. Scary division.
Who the fuck is Daniel Bard
Dominant reliever with the red sox ages ago until he got the yips because someone decided to make him a starter. Finally figured out how to pitch again and came back to the majors with Colorado a couple years back. He had ~3.8 WAR this year which is dang good for a reliever
Obviously wanted Manny to win, but Goldy was the right choice, he had an amazing year.
7 first place votes? With that huge a Goldy season? I’ll take it
Pretty damn close race. Manny definitely earned second this year. Happy that you guys have a franchise cornerstone like him!
One more for that parlay to hit.
My boy got one finally 🙌
Goldy :’)
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
As expected, but I thought the vote would be closer, I am surprised Arenado only got a single first place vote.
Why would you have thought it would be closer?
What's crazy is that he struggled hard for the first month of the season
And last
It was actually a better start to this year then the last couple.
Well deserved
Congratulations to goldy
Gratz Goldy! You were truly the right choice!
Goldy!!
Goldy was a monster. Def deserved it.
Good. Well deservesd.
Daniel Bard robbed
Where’s that one dude with his 134K bet
Remember all the "Paul Goldschmidt will never be the same player again" talk?
shoulda been Nolan tbh
Still pissed they gave up carson kelly for him. Lol
So happy for Goldy, well-deserved. Fuck the Cardinals.
Good call. Why would anyone pick Arenado at 1?
presumably someone who REALLY values the defense.
tbh he had the highest rWAR of the bunch
Elite D
Goldy ❤️❤️❤️
Welcome to Cooperstown !
Hell yeah!!! So proud of you dad
I love….GOOOOOOOLLLLLDDDD
I was worried about Goldy and Nolan splitting the vote, like the MV3 in the mid-2000s
So now you can stop worrying about something that doesn't exist right? There is no vote splitting in ranked choice voting, it's why it is the superior type of voting
People that thought Machado should win…how?
I'm fine with Goldy winning but you can make a case. (1) Manny has higher WAR than either Goldy or Arenado; (2) with Tatis out, Manny was the only MVP caliber player for most of the year--Goldy could lean on Arenado but Manny had little backup in lineup; (3) Manny's stats would have been better but played injured for a month + on a bad ankle because he was basically irreplaceable.
My only argument was Machado was more valuable to his team than Goldy was to his. Especially with that incredible tear Pujols went off on to end the season.
Your 20 dollars isnt more valuable than my 100 dollars just because you only have 20 dollars.
It's an individual award. It shouldn't be based on how good teammates are
Lindor so low is insanity
2020 Jake Cronenworth Shafted on RoY
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Can’t have 2 MVPs on one team it cancels out their relevance suck it MLB
Machado got robbed
Not even close
How does 2 MVP candidates on the same team get 1 hit in the playoffs? This should also count the postseason.
Link does not work.
THATS MY DADDY 😭😭😭
Awesome
Thank you for carrying my fantasy team goldy
Absolutely deserved. Congrats to him
Well done!
Oh man, after all these years? He deserves it.
Is it because of how stacked Dodgers are that Freemen finished 5th? Looked up Freemen's stats and they're pretty good too compared to Goldy's and Freemen had identical bWAR
I think goldy being a triple crown threat late into the season and and being the best player in the league by a good margin for months on end until his collapse helped a ton. I think most voters had him commented into their mind as mvp by September.
Former Texas State Bobcat. Eat ‘Em Up Cats!
good for him, he's been ridiculously consistent for a decade
Love you Goldy <3
4th oldest player to win their first MVP.
Sigh
I can finally lie at peace…
Would have been good to see pujols get a few lower placed votes. He was the best hitter in the 2nd half.
That dude with the betting ticket only missed on Ohtani! Damn.
And no one cares, because he’s an anti-vax douche
Fuck the downvoters so much. Steroid use keeps people out of the Hall, betting does as well, but this guy does something that kills people and he's still in the convo for the HoF? Why?
Manny Machado: has an absolutely amazing season and carries the padres.
I’ll give him my best looking pinewood derby car trophy
I mean…Someone had to be given the award.
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