Twisted Sister. The band name was Twisted Sister and had make-up on the same level ass KISS and he thought "We're Not Gonna Take It" was about standing up for conservatism. Did he only read the lyrics in absence of everything else and thought "we're right" meant they were politically Right wing?
same with Rammstein and "America". I think this are hints american didnt get, because you need a proper translation and ALSO need to understand the scenes in the music - video in context to the lyrics and i think most americans didnt get the clues.
It’s stuff like that tweet that convince me we need to teach media literacy in schools more effectively than having kids read Great Expectations or The Scarlet Letter and calling it a day at that.
What even are “traditional American values”? Whenever I see shit like this, I think it’s got to be deliberately vague and ambiguous in an effort to basically just madlibs (meaning fill in the blank of whatever projected meaning you want on it to fill in the vagueness) their regressive agenda in the public conciousness.
For a good number, I think it's a dogwhistle for how things were in the 50s-70s. You know, the "golden age." Women in the kitchen and home, Caucasian men running the world, America being the alleged biggest big bad on the international corner... all of that.
Bit of free advice, Jerrod: You don't need to distinguish yourself from the other Republicans on the "knows fuck all about the music they like" issue. You're not going to win anything. Just go on, like all the conservatives, pretending that "We're Not Gonna Take It" is a good, conservative anthem, that "Born in the USA" is a nice jingoistic song for you to wave a flag to, and that "Bulls on Parade" is just a badass song to headbang to that doesn't repeatedly accuse cops of being members of the Klan. The only alternative is to learn a thing or two about music and discover that the only rockers on your side are Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, and a bunch of openly Neo Nazi bands that no one outside their subculture has ever heard of, which is something that would probably destroy you.
Now that you mention it, "we're not gonna take it anymore" does sound like someone who's happy with the way things have been, and want to keep them that way.
I never took it as being a “pro conservative” or pro any political ideology song. Moral Majority/PMRC was a bipartisan effort lead by Tipper Gore and filled out by both sides of the aisle. But now it is all abt raging against 1/2 the machine. Sad….
In the past decade, US conservatives have spun clear round into what can only be regretfully described as a counterculture. They see themselves as "the rebels" now. And so this misunderstanding of an old rebellious song from the counterculture that I grew up with doesn't surprise me one bit. But it does depress me a lot.
Traditional, American values, like men wearing heavy make-up. An easy mistake to make.
And telling the wife of a senator that her mind is in the gutter.
I’ve got some bad news for this guy regarding “Takin’ Care of Business,” and “Born in the USA.”
Also “Fortunate Son.”
American Woman as well
And "little pink houses "
"American Idiot"
There's more than one irony here.
But..apple pie is british
Is apple pie even that American? Not enough cholesterol.......
But america is all about being subservient to authority thats like americas WHOLE thing thats what they do its what they are about
Twisted Sister. The band name was Twisted Sister and had make-up on the same level ass KISS and he thought "We're Not Gonna Take It" was about standing up for conservatism. Did he only read the lyrics in absence of everything else and thought "we're right" meant they were politically Right wing?
same with Rammstein and "America". I think this are hints american didnt get, because you need a proper translation and ALSO need to understand the scenes in the music - video in context to the lyrics and i think most americans didnt get the clues.
ONE look at Dee and you clearly see he doesn't really embody conservative "values"... this guy is delusional...
The guy that’s well known for cross dressing? Shocked I say
Conservatives are deranged.
Bear in mind that they will blast “Born in the USA” without a hint of irony.
It’s stuff like that tweet that convince me we need to teach media literacy in schools more effectively than having kids read Great Expectations or The Scarlet Letter and calling it a day at that.
Daily reminder that conservatives are uniformly culturally, historically, and scientifically illiterate.
Don't forget legally. They wouldn't know the law if it bit them in the ass.
Daily reminder that general blanket statements have a tendency to be untrue or misleading.
Lmao you can clearly tell he's never seen the music video
At this point it's fair to think he even never listen the song.
I can’t believe how deluded they are.
Yes.
nothing screams conservative American values and tradition like the rock n roll movement
What even are “traditional American values”? Whenever I see shit like this, I think it’s got to be deliberately vague and ambiguous in an effort to basically just madlibs (meaning fill in the blank of whatever projected meaning you want on it to fill in the vagueness) their regressive agenda in the public conciousness.
traditional American values are whichever values can be abused to stop liberals communists
For a good number, I think it's a dogwhistle for how things were in the 50s-70s. You know, the "golden age." Women in the kitchen and home, Caucasian men running the world, America being the alleged biggest big bad on the international corner... all of that.
When this song was still fresh, Dee Snider dressed like he was the quarterback in a drag queen American football team.
They really think the guy who stepped before Congress to give Daddy Ronnie's wife a big fuck you was ever on their side?
Daddy Ronnie? are you referring to Nancy Regan? Wasn't Tipper Gore the head of the PMRC
I LOVE ruining Eric Arthur Blair for them too lmao
TIL how to get next level rekt on twitter.
Conservatives love telling people what they meant to say, Martin Luther King Jr, George Orwell the list goes on
The guy who handed Congress's ass back to them might not be in support of your values? I'm shocked!
Bit of free advice, Jerrod: You don't need to distinguish yourself from the other Republicans on the "knows fuck all about the music they like" issue. You're not going to win anything. Just go on, like all the conservatives, pretending that "We're Not Gonna Take It" is a good, conservative anthem, that "Born in the USA" is a nice jingoistic song for you to wave a flag to, and that "Bulls on Parade" is just a badass song to headbang to that doesn't repeatedly accuse cops of being members of the Klan. The only alternative is to learn a thing or two about music and discover that the only rockers on your side are Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, and a bunch of openly Neo Nazi bands that no one outside their subculture has ever heard of, which is something that would probably destroy you.
not. a. comeback.
Dee Snider fully
you have to try to be as ignorant as conservatives
This isn't a clever comeback, this is literally such a generic comeback, why is it on this sub?
Found the Republican
Check out TS's Christmas album.
See- Fortunate Son
this is exactly how republicans see everything, as us and them, never as we.
It must be awful to create art that espouses values important to you only to have it commandeered by people in opposition to those values.
Now that you mention it, "we're not gonna take it anymore" does sound like someone who's happy with the way things have been, and want to keep them that way.
Just a reminder these people are in show buidness. Tgey ding what sells. It isn't their values but their pocket they care about.
This keeps surfacing and I never get it.
You don’t like traditional American values Dee?
I never took it as being a “pro conservative” or pro any political ideology song. Moral Majority/PMRC was a bipartisan effort lead by Tipper Gore and filled out by both sides of the aisle. But now it is all abt raging against 1/2 the machine. Sad….
It's the same people who think Born in the USA is a patriotic song about how awesome being an American is.
I swear all conservatives do now is lie. Lie to themselves, lie to others … all lies
In the past decade, US conservatives have spun clear round into what can only be regretfully described as a counterculture. They see themselves as "the rebels" now. And so this misunderstanding of an old rebellious song from the counterculture that I grew up with doesn't surprise me one bit. But it does depress me a lot.
This is like mfs who suddenly realized Rage Against the Machine isnt about fighting the dishwasher or something