Preaching to the choir here, but I knew you'd all enjoy this.

  1. Because Ford keeps showing commercials of people driving trucks up the side of totally empty mountain roads while Big McToughman tells you about how tough and free he is because of his truck.

  2. Because it's an extra room in your home that moves around with you. It's not that deep. I love my bike and don't even have a driving license, but holy hell do I ever get the appeal of having a car I could just leave stuff in, and that actually keeps me protected from the elements (I live in a part of the world that gets Cold and Wet and Snowy a significant part of the year).

  3. then explain how tf you’re supposed to get groceries on a bike? and how it takes a lot longer to bike somewhere than it would to just drive there?

  4. The no fuel thing is amazing, it's literally free to bike around minus the half a cent to fill my water bottle and the initial payment for it. I follow a few podcasts so whenever one comes out I use it as an excuse to ride around my town for a few hours. The recent episode was an hour so it was a fairly short ride but the one before it was a bit longer so I went 4 hours there and back to my state capitol. It's just pretty fun biking places.

  5. It isn't free, you "burn calories" while biking, you exchange chemical energy to mechanical energy, chemical energy is from glucose (eaten or made in your organism out of food you ate or fat and glycogen stored in your body and liver), that later undergoes cellular respiration where carbon from glucose reacts with oxygen making ATP and CO2. ATP is transported to your muscles that finally change chemical energy to mechanical energy. Think of it like your organism is very efficient internal combustion engine that sucks oxygen(respiration), uses it to burn fuel(cellular respiration), changes it to mechanical energy and "exhales" CO2 (irl it's not pure CO2 ofc)

  6. The only bike traffic jam I saw I experienced pretty frequently. All the bike kids ran to the bike cage in order to get their bikes before the rest of the school made it onto the sidewalk. At least then (early 10s) police didn't bother you if you rode on the sidewalk. Even here in my suburb the police don't give a hoot. There's far more serious things to attend to, like car crashes.

  7. I think “goes as far and fast as you can” is a big issue, especially for a country raised on cars. For me that’s not very far and not very fast right now 😅 but I would love to see a bike-designed city! You wouldn’t have to go very far anyways if that were the case!

  8. Visit Copenhagen. Or just look at videos, it's absolutely insane how many people can commute by bike in a cold, rainy country, with absolutely zero issue.

  9. Well depends on your city. if it is build for cars you will have to travel further than in a good city design where you have everything you need nearby.

  10. They were actually! When feminism & suffragettes were actually starting to exist, bicycles were widely used by women to get around to talk about the wanting rights and whatnot. This was common enough that it was actively retaliated against by the patriarchy, who claimed that, and I fucking kid you not, if women were to put their frail bodies through the impossibly strenuous activity that was riding this newfangled two wheeled contraption, their faces would be permanently stuck with a strained expression.

  11. A bike is the ultimate libertarian vehicle. Unregulated, untraceable, you take it across borders, it doesn't rely on outside input to run, almost never gets stopped by police... hell, you can even build it yourself if you want too

  12. Also, much harder to make a barrier that stops a bicycle than one that stops a car. To stop a car, you just need some steel or concrete bollards spaced ~5 feet apart, or drop some concrete blocks if you're in a hurry. Or, drop a spike strip. You usually just need to put these on the roads, too, because off-road has all kinds of pre-existing obstructions like trees, houses, fences, rocks, etc.

  13. This is something we should meme the fuck out of. I know some libertarians who could be genuinely swayed by this discourse.

  14. Very true. I have always thought that cyclists in cities and traveling across the country were the last true cowboys in the United States.

  15. Yea unironically there are so many places I wish I felt free to bike in but don’t because im too worried about being killed riding there by cars

  16. I commuted by bike in college and it was the tits. Especially at my school which had no parking anyway and everyone with cars was absolutely fucked if they chose to drive.

  17. I was once pulled over by a police officer while riding my bike. He spent more time complaining about how dangerous “cagers” are than anything else and let me off without a ticket. Fuck cars.

  18. i've been pulled over on my bike for "obstructing traffic"... on a two lane road, plenty of space to safely and efficiently pass me on the left. in fact, the cop that pulled me over pulled up alongside me in his unmarked police vehicle, rolled his window down and yelled at me to get out of the road, effectively obstructing traffic behind the both of us.

  19. The only transport that matches the energy efficiency of a healthy human on a well tuned bicycle is freight rail transport.

  20. That's so not true. I used to help all my international university buddies to find a good bike. A good city bike will cost you around 200-500 Euro depending on what you're looking for. Only in the 2000> Euro range will you start to get electric bikes.

  21. And the shittiest rust bucket of a vehicle that will get you down the road costs twice that these days. Plus insurance, maintenance, fuel costs. Not even factoring the additional cost through taxes to maintain roads. Bikes cause nearly zero wear on asphalt and concrete.

  22. I have a 700whp 1400lb/ft torque Cummins diesel that spins 37s and has a sick Focal sound system. I rate it pretty accurately awesome.

  23. Does anyone on this sub only bike down here in Florida? I can’t imagine having to do that on my commute. I would definitely consider a bike as my main mode of transportation one day if I ever get to work nearby

  24. Live in florida, about to start commuting by bike. Definitely not safe. But midlife crisis and depression I figure there are no wrong answers here. What's the worst that can happen? I survive? Either way it's a net positive for the planet.

  25. living and working near one another was the biggest thing when i got around by bike in s.fl. you usually need a car for longer trips. i used mine about once a week for groceries, and i could have made that work by bike with very little effort.

  26. Because G0 [email protected]$t3R! Trying to explain any of this to someone who will pass another driver on the highway 100 yards before the exit they're taking is pointless.

  27. It highly depends on where you live. Bikes are very weather dependent. Where i live if you are below 18yo you need bikers license and bikes are being stolen very often. Also as disabled person(weak legs) im not sure about "goes as far and as fast as you can"

  28. It all depends on how you design your infrastructure. A public transit, bike, and pedestrian designed world will make public transport, bike, and pedestrians feel like freedom, while it makes cars feel like the clumsiest and most expensive forms of transport. While in a car centric world it just makes cars feel like the clumsiest and most expensive forms of transport, but it's the closest thing you get to freedom.

  29. If I could get to work on a bicycle without being either completely drenched in sweat or completely drenched with rain I would absolutely ride mind every single day.

  30. Ebikes are, surprisingly, even cheaper to fuel than regular bikes are. You can fill a 1kwh battery for ~10-20 cents, and 1kwh is approximately equivalent to 850kcal- about the amount of energy in a large cheeseburger, or an entire 2-liter Coke. Good luck finding that much food for less than a quarter.

  31. The problem is when it’s below zero outside, the roads/sidewalks are full of snow and ice, (aren’t plowed) and work is far. Basically winter makes using this unfeasible for transportation

  32. Ideally, everything should be closer together, and the sidewalks needing a plow has a pretty simple solution

  33. I used to think this too. But you can plow a bike lane just like we plow streets. And with coat, jacket, and hat technologies we can survive in the cold. Once you start you warm up quick. Rain is probably the more difficult weather to deal with. However the benefits of biking outweigh the weather negatives

  34. The solution exists in 3 high-tech, avant-garde solutions that you probably haven't heard of: gloves, winter coats, and hats.

  35. Yup. Or when you make a couple of thousand mile plus drives a year to rural locations. (I'll have 4.7k miles driven this year just going to rural North Carolina, with my one drive to Memphis is more like 6k) Public transit and bikes literally are not feasible to get there and back. The US is just God damn massive.

  36. You can spend a lot but you can also spend very little. I'm a bike enthusiast so I spend a small fortune on them, but I could also buy a used bike for a few hundred and ride it to work for the next 5 years without spending another cent on it.

  37. I own 3 bikes and their total cost (purchase price + every maintenance I've ever done on them) is still less than the cost of filling a full tank of gas. And the cheapest bike is my everyday commute vehicle.

  38. Even the most expensive bike you can find is cheap compared to a car. And the maintenance cost is almost zero.

  39. I've used the same bike for almost all of my travel within Boston for the last four years and my total cost has been about $500. That's to buy it, purchase a rack and panniers, replace tubes and tires, and replace the chainrings, cassette, and chain (which I only had to do because I drastically neglected chain maintenance for two years)

  40. Maybe right now because of inflation, but that's really only for new premium bikes. If you're American, you can find used bikes for almost scrap prices all day long.

  41. You can find perfectly functional used bikes for as little as $50. I paid $75 for mine and I love it. Will I upgrade sometime in the future? Yes, now that I love bicycling so much. But a cheapo gets it done.

  42. If a city prioritizes biking, it can be year round. They ride bikes year round in Oslo, Norway. That's way more snowy and cold than Cleveland

  43. That’s the point , bike when the weathers good and use your car only when you absolutely need it , like in extreme weather. What we’re against is car-centric infrastructure that forces you to drive to places that are at 15-30 minutes walking distance. We understand that it’s difficult for a lot of people to bike for more than an hour in extreme weather.

  44. They're not fun at all, but you can ride them drunk so it evens out! //Carbrain who rides his bike bcs fuel prices

  45. The human body is actually pretty inefficient in terms of converting fuel to energy at a rate of about 25%. You’re then going to lose a few more percent from converting pedaling to motion on a bicycle. So you end up at around a 23% energy efficiency rate for bicycles.

  46. Also even better with an electric motor that will assist the rider making it even better to haul heavy items, increase the range significantly and reduce the sweatiness of the rider.

  47. pffft yeah but my car is so much bigger and louder than your puny bicycle and if I want I can force you to get out of my way. that's call respect. tell me how much respect you get from pedalling your weeny wheels around lol!

  48. The only thing you can't do with this is drive miles and miles away to another city in a reasonable amount of time. But that's what trains are for.

  49. I am convinced an anti car operative from this community has infiltrated 4chan, and is sowing the seeds of dissent for car brain infrastructure with posts like these

  50. Based, and yet people just gotta ask "well how will all my groceries fit in there" Then I have to start explaining like how manray explains to Patrick about his wallet

  51. I went test diving e bikes because my dad can lease up to 2 seperate bikes at 10000€ each. The one we got is 200€ a month and even with the outrageus price or 0.35€/hWh its so much cheaper than a car especially since the thing is fully insured even for theft. Imma buy one as well when I am out of college

  52. High speed bike collisions are possible and CAN send people to a hospital... but the fact that a head on collision sent both to the hospital (where they presumably recovered) and none to the morgue is quite impressive. I don't think most people even GET to the hospital when dealing with a head on car collision.

  53. Lol, have fun biking to another state weirdos. Also, some people have work commutes that would take hours on bikes, and some people don’t want to wake up at 2 or 3 in the morning to bike to their job. A lot of people need a truck to carry shit back and forth from their work place. How about let people like what they like. Maybe I should make a fuckbikes subreddit because electric scooters are actually more efficient because they’re cheaper than electric bicycles, can go 60mph, and they’re relatively cheap to replace. When I saw this subreddit I couldn’t believe it wasn’t satire. Really I couldn’t. There’s a reason the whole world uses automobiles. Peoples’ stupidity never fails to amaze me.

  54. The car is the ultimate symbol of freedom no matter how much anyone cries otherwise. Before the gas prices went sky high (something that has doomed europe to a very cold winter but that is another discussion all together) i used to wake up early in the Saturday morning, load up my car with camping equipment and drive 200kms to my favourite camping spot high up in the mountains where there is only a poorly maintained dirt trail. I'd walk around there for the view and ride my mountain bike then sleep there overnight in my car and leave the next evening to get back home. You can't do that with a bike, or using public transportation as the closest bus stop is 50km away in a small village. Yes a car is expensive to own and maintain but the freedom of going anywhere anytime you want is worth the price. The only place in the world where small villages are actively serviced by trains and busses is Switzerland and even there I'd argue a car is useful. I am all for using public transport in the city and i actively yield to busses when they want to turn at an intersection but to go out and say that cars are bad is something i'll never do.

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