Don't know how hot of a take this is, but I enjoyed the Kingpin vs Kate Bishop fight. It showed the resilience of Kate but also showed she was no match for Fisk as he shrugged off nearly everything she did. She didn't really win, she just didn't get killed.
I honestly don’t even really like this movie. The projection bots don’t even make much sense to me. Imo should have been nano bots that he stole from Tony.
Honestly, I don’t think anything can really top Infinity War and Endgame.. the hype was unreal and an accumulation of 10 years of movies is something really hard to replicate
I was very disappointed with Moon Knight on how they made his origin not tied to Judaism at all. Like, you could take out the fact that he’s Jewish, and it wouldn’t change the story at all!
I felt like Marc’s Judaism presented itself a few times, but like check marks instead of something integrated into his motivations and inner struggle. Even if he wasn’t really practicing anymore… he was a Jew enslaved by an Egyptian God, which is a pretty significant conflict of interests. And the show sure did make a big deal out of Egyptian lore and Layla’s heritage, so why they couldn’t give the *main character that same level of care is beyond me.
I adore Foggy and Marcy! Healthiest relationship in the MCU (in fact I would say that Foggy has the healthiest interpersonal relationships with everybody and I don’t like when people poop in his pudding).
Oddly enough, I think the fan-castings for A-list actors are actually the better ones, because you generally have an idea as to what ‘prestige’ roles look like.
I'm probably one of the 5 people on the planet that really does not like Ragnarok at all, and I apologize if this goes on too long but I just get kinda annoyed thinking about the movie. I have liked other films from Taika, but Ragnarok was not at all his Best film imo and I hate it as an adaptation of Ragnarok. Ragnarok should have been this dark, epic, fantasy film but what we got was basically an SNL skit with a big budget. Also felt like taika didn't care too much about Thor's whole side of the universe or about Ragnarok. A good chunk of the film was on Sakaar with planet hulk shoved in there (another story that could have been a great film) didn't even seem like the characters cared much either about Ragnarok, like yeah Thor wants to get back there but I just didn't feel much ergency. Hell I kinda forgot that Ragnarok was even a thing that they were trying to prevent after a while on Sakaar. The comedy also just didn't work for me, I like comedy, I like to laugh, but it was just way too much and this was not at all the right story to make a comedy with. The amount of jokes and humor combined with the pace that won't let you breath for even a second made it to where any moment that should be emotional just didn't work, either the moment would be ruined by a joke or the film just moved on too fast for me to really take in what happened and actually care. I'm not even excited for Love and Thunder because it just looks like it'll have the same humor and tone as Ragnarok. Which to me is a shame because I just have a feeling the Gorr storyline will be wasted when that, just like Ragnarok, could have been an amazing, epic film if done right. I get the past 2 Thor movies were not people's favorite but they didn't at all need to go the comedy route. The tone of those films were fine, they just needed better writing and directing. Now people think the funny thor is the only way it should be done now and if they go serious again they will think we are getting another Dark Work.
Probably not that hot of a take, but, Arthur Harrow is one of the best Marvel villains. I loved how the audience could agree with him, despite him going too far, and I liked how he genuinely believed in Ammit.
The "Snap" was supposed to be a power move, not a literal input command. Thanos could wipe half the universe "just like that" [snap], it's supposed to signify that something so quick and easy to do can make such a huge impact. But in the MCU you *have* to do the snapping motion to activate the stones, it *has* to be a snap, which makes it seem like the gauntlet(s) or the stone(s) have this weird input command about snapping being a thing, and you can make it so the user does not use the stones if you block or hold his hand open, which is idiotic IMO.
Agreed! I did think Taskmaster was a wasted opportunity, but there are things I don't love in most movies. Overall I truly enjoyed it, especially Yelena, that amazing little spitfire.
Ned and MJ have zero character development across three movies (MJ even less so). They’re entirely in service to Peter and we know basically nothing about them outside their relationships with him.
Yeah the side characters were really not handled well in the MCU Spidey films. Say what you want about the Tasm films but I thought the supporting characters like Gwen were handled well. It's been a long time since I watched the films but Im pretty sure even Flash had a little bit of development and changed even though he had so little screen time. Like he started off as a bully, tried to be Nice to Peter after Ben died, and then in Tasm 2 he seemed friendly with Peter at the graduation.
I get where you’re coming from, but MJ definitely opens up as the movies go along. It’s subtle, but it’s there. And I enjoyed the slow burn of it. But you’re right, we don’t know much about her life. As for Ned, he’s perfect. I didn’t need character development from him. I’m okay with some character just being themselves. They had 3 movies and 6.5hrs and they choose to use that short time to focus on other things like Tony and Peter, Aunt May and Peter, and then of course Peter, Peter and Peter.
While I do agree.. I still really love them as Peter’s friends and enjoy MJ and Peter’s relationship.. the chemistry between all three of them seems natural!
The desaturated tone of most of the pre phase 4 films makes sense for the realism, but isn't something I liked, and I'm enjoying that they are becoming more colourful.
Captain America Civil War is overrated. It wasn’t really a CA movie but an Avengers 2.5 movie. Captain America: Secret Avengers should have taken place after This movie. Sharon was completely pushed out. I wanted more Sam and Bucky and less Wanda, T’Challa, and Peter.
Yea the airport fight in Civil War hasn’t aged so well. It has what’s regarded as one of the worst cgi moments in the MCU, the color grading is notably bland, and there are too many quips. Just because they were pulling punches doesn’t mean they needed to quip
Captain Marvel is actually a really good movie and most of the negative reception surrounding it largely had to do with its advertising and time of release. Watch it again today and you will forget about the majority of problems you thought you had with it.
I mean, there are some people in your life that stays in your heart permanently. I still think of a girl in my class from 10 years ago to this day from time to time.
I don't really like Holland's Spider-man's jittery overly infantile persona. He acts like a goofy apologetic overly polite kid, and that works for teen Peter Parker, but I like when Peter transforms as a person when he puts on a mask, becoming snarky and teasing. I haven't seen it in the MCU.
Most of the movies are not rewatchable IMO. Probably because the plots are basic, most of the jokes aren’t funny the second time and the standout scenes are just… there upon rewatch because you already saw it.
Why would Bucky who is just now recovering from decades of trauma and forced control, who wants to heal and start a new life, take on the helm of captain America? Which would be continuous stress for him. Also the US government wouldn’t even allow that he’s still coming into good graces with them
As a comic book fan from the 80's, who also played the FASERIP Marvel RPG, the MCU is an absolute wonder and treasure. It's not perfect, but 12 year old me would have wept in joy at seeing how great the MCU has become.
The Winter Soldier is not a top 10 marvel movie, but that doesn’t mean it’s bad whatsoever. Eternals was a very good movie just with too long of a runtime. MOM is a very good movie and did not need 15+ cameos to be good. Moon Knight is the best Marvel Disney+ show. The new daredevil show does not need to be as gruesome and bloody as the old one to be good. Not every show has to have people getting decapitated. Endgame is the best Marvel movie, if not the best CBM ever
Mark Ruffalo’s Hulk is the best Hulk. Marvel just doesn’t know what to do with him anymore. Yes, they nerfed him big time for Endgame by not giving him literally any action or fight scenes. But that’s on the Russo’s, not Ruffalo. His portrayal as Hulk / Banner was great on Avengers, Age of Ultron, and Thor: Ragnarok.
They should re-film parts of the Hulk movie with Mark Ruffalo and Mark Ruffalo Hulk added in so it blends into the MCU better. They should also put Don Cheadle in Iron Man 1.
Street level/spy stuff isn't that interesting. It's built on somewhat generic plotlines you could find in other franchises, and weak or underwhelming characters like Black Widow, Hawkeye and Falcon. Most of projects connected to them are inconsistent and poorly made, and trying to make BW and Hawkeye major MCU Avengers was a mistake. Anything focused on Hawkeye is especially bad.
Interesting. I personally loved Homecoming. I thought it was a brilliant, fresh way to tell Peter’s story and do a superhero movie. I love a good John Hughes style coming of age tale.
If Monica makes a cameo at the end of Ms Marvel, instead of Carol, then it's clear they just don't care about Carol at all anymore. And then it's clear that Carol is only there to make other characters good and cool and she's only there to be the big punchbag of the MCU.
Agreed. Honestly it would be pretty weird if Monica was to be the one to cameo in Ms. Marvel with Kamala looking up to Carol and all.. either it should be Carol or no cameo at all
Agree with everything except Daredevil being overrated. The show was a masterpiece and it does deserve all the love it gets. But that's not to say that the other Netflix shows weren't good too. Just nothing even close to Daredevil.
It’s Partially peters own fault many things happen to him
This is kind of true. In fact, everything that happened in NWH would not have happened had Peter just been quiet and let Strange do his spell.
In hindsight, bringing a group of supervillains home was probably a bad idea…
Don't know how hot of a take this is, but I enjoyed the Kingpin vs Kate Bishop fight. It showed the resilience of Kate but also showed she was no match for Fisk as he shrugged off nearly everything she did. She didn't really win, she just didn't get killed.
I think it’s “fun” and to many people are overthinking it these days. They are comic book movies.
Definitely agree. These movies are here so we can have a good time and enjoy the interconnection of it all.. and it shouldn’t be anymore than that
The MCU is not built to please comic book fans.
TFATWS had problems in its writing, but nothing of a level that is uncommon to the MCU.
Far from Home is the best Spider-Man movie
It's not bad, but it's my least favorite of the trilogy. Mysterio and the illusion scenes were awesome tho.
I honestly don’t even really like this movie. The projection bots don’t even make much sense to me. Imo should have been nano bots that he stole from Tony.
Absolutely. NWH is close tho.
The country will burn to ash before we get another infinity war-endgame combo movie event.
Honestly, I don’t think anything can really top Infinity War and Endgame.. the hype was unreal and an accumulation of 10 years of movies is something really hard to replicate
Wdym the country?
I was very disappointed with Moon Knight on how they made his origin not tied to Judaism at all. Like, you could take out the fact that he’s Jewish, and it wouldn’t change the story at all!
I felt like Marc’s Judaism presented itself a few times, but like check marks instead of something integrated into his motivations and inner struggle. Even if he wasn’t really practicing anymore… he was a Jew enslaved by an Egyptian God, which is a pretty significant conflict of interests. And the show sure did make a big deal out of Egyptian lore and Layla’s heritage, so why they couldn’t give the *main character that same level of care is beyond me.
I hope they go more into that in the second season.
Positive Hot take: Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the 2nd best non-avengers films.
That is the coldest take ever, this sub and mcu fans in general love the winter soldier
The Winter Soldier is the most overrated movie in the entire MCU, and Loki is the most overrated show in the MCU
There’s very little unknown casting for me even from the start. Definitely bigger stars for sure.
95% of fan castings are awful, typically those casting a-list actors.
I adore Foggy and Marcy! Healthiest relationship in the MCU (in fact I would say that Foggy has the healthiest interpersonal relationships with everybody and I don’t like when people poop in his pudding).
You don’t like RDJ or Evans?
Oddly enough, I think the fan-castings for A-list actors are actually the better ones, because you generally have an idea as to what ‘prestige’ roles look like.
I'm probably one of the 5 people on the planet that really does not like Ragnarok at all, and I apologize if this goes on too long but I just get kinda annoyed thinking about the movie. I have liked other films from Taika, but Ragnarok was not at all his Best film imo and I hate it as an adaptation of Ragnarok. Ragnarok should have been this dark, epic, fantasy film but what we got was basically an SNL skit with a big budget. Also felt like taika didn't care too much about Thor's whole side of the universe or about Ragnarok. A good chunk of the film was on Sakaar with planet hulk shoved in there (another story that could have been a great film) didn't even seem like the characters cared much either about Ragnarok, like yeah Thor wants to get back there but I just didn't feel much ergency. Hell I kinda forgot that Ragnarok was even a thing that they were trying to prevent after a while on Sakaar. The comedy also just didn't work for me, I like comedy, I like to laugh, but it was just way too much and this was not at all the right story to make a comedy with. The amount of jokes and humor combined with the pace that won't let you breath for even a second made it to where any moment that should be emotional just didn't work, either the moment would be ruined by a joke or the film just moved on too fast for me to really take in what happened and actually care. I'm not even excited for Love and Thunder because it just looks like it'll have the same humor and tone as Ragnarok. Which to me is a shame because I just have a feeling the Gorr storyline will be wasted when that, just like Ragnarok, could have been an amazing, epic film if done right. I get the past 2 Thor movies were not people's favorite but they didn't at all need to go the comedy route. The tone of those films were fine, they just needed better writing and directing. Now people think the funny thor is the only way it should be done now and if they go serious again they will think we are getting another Dark Work.
Probably not that hot of a take, but, Arthur Harrow is one of the best Marvel villains. I loved how the audience could agree with him, despite him going too far, and I liked how he genuinely believed in Ammit.
Harrow's tied with Zemo for the best MCU villain, in my opinion.
Andrew Garfield is best spiderman
Andrew should have been MCU Spidey
The "Snap" was supposed to be a power move, not a literal input command. Thanos could wipe half the universe "just like that" [snap], it's supposed to signify that something so quick and easy to do can make such a huge impact. But in the MCU you *have* to do the snapping motion to activate the stones, it *has* to be a snap, which makes it seem like the gauntlet(s) or the stone(s) have this weird input command about snapping being a thing, and you can make it so the user does not use the stones if you block or hold his hand open, which is idiotic IMO.
I thought Black Widow was really good. I think mostly because I didn’t care about Taskmaster. Also not really a hot take.
Agreed! I did think Taskmaster was a wasted opportunity, but there are things I don't love in most movies. Overall I truly enjoyed it, especially Yelena, that amazing little spitfire.
Ned and MJ have zero character development across three movies (MJ even less so). They’re entirely in service to Peter and we know basically nothing about them outside their relationships with him.
Yeah the side characters were really not handled well in the MCU Spidey films. Say what you want about the Tasm films but I thought the supporting characters like Gwen were handled well. It's been a long time since I watched the films but Im pretty sure even Flash had a little bit of development and changed even though he had so little screen time. Like he started off as a bully, tried to be Nice to Peter after Ben died, and then in Tasm 2 he seemed friendly with Peter at the graduation.
Yup I don't want them for the next spiderman movies of tom
I get where you’re coming from, but MJ definitely opens up as the movies go along. It’s subtle, but it’s there. And I enjoyed the slow burn of it. But you’re right, we don’t know much about her life. As for Ned, he’s perfect. I didn’t need character development from him. I’m okay with some character just being themselves. They had 3 movies and 6.5hrs and they choose to use that short time to focus on other things like Tony and Peter, Aunt May and Peter, and then of course Peter, Peter and Peter.
While I do agree.. I still really love them as Peter’s friends and enjoy MJ and Peter’s relationship.. the chemistry between all three of them seems natural!
MCU Spider-Man movies > TASM movies > Raimi Spider-Man movies
AoS is 100% one of my favorite MCU shows! Love that show and it’s characters! ❤️
The desaturated tone of most of the pre phase 4 films makes sense for the realism, but isn't something I liked, and I'm enjoying that they are becoming more colourful.
Also, I sort of agree with Scorcese that the MCU isn't artistic cinema […] but that doesn't make it bad.
Kingpin shouldn’t have been in Hawkeye and Eleanor should have been Madame Masque.
the majority of MCU products are only worth watching 1 time, they’re pretty mediocre and useless, besides 1 or 2 plot elements
Brie Larson is the perfect casting as Carol Danvers because of the reaction she elicits.
I second this
Captain America Civil War is overrated. It wasn’t really a CA movie but an Avengers 2.5 movie. Captain America: Secret Avengers should have taken place after This movie. Sharon was completely pushed out. I wanted more Sam and Bucky and less Wanda, T’Challa, and Peter.
Yea the airport fight in Civil War hasn’t aged so well. It has what’s regarded as one of the worst cgi moments in the MCU, the color grading is notably bland, and there are too many quips. Just because they were pulling punches doesn’t mean they needed to quip
Daredevil doesn't need to be TV-MA. The character is a swashbuckling Acrobat capable of a much more range of storytelling.
We don’t need car door decapitations, but I also don’t want it to devolve into a quip-fest like Black Widow.
“Kraven as the main villain of MCUSM3” would have been a MUCH better option for the 3rd MCU Spider-Man movie because:
Hawkeye is the best Disney plus show. If it counts as MCU into the spider verse is the worst film in the MCU, if not just the worst Spider-Man film
Captain Marvel is actually a really good movie and most of the negative reception surrounding it largely had to do with its advertising and time of release. Watch it again today and you will forget about the majority of problems you thought you had with it.
Gotta Disagree mate. I did a rewatch about a month ago. Still boring, and I still don’t like her character in that movie.
Far From Home is a bottom tier MCU movie
Agreed. I didn't hate it, but I consider it the worst MCU film. Yes, I prefer Thor Dark World to Far From Home.
Not the hottest one but, Thanos with no infinity stones can EASILY be beaten by someone at least "not brute force only".
The filmmakers should have given Thanos powers besides strength/durability even without the stones.
‘The Boys’ has delivered better supe stories in 3 seasons than marvel has in over 10 years.
It's a semi-parody of the MCU that still manages to take itself more seriously than the majority of the MCU. It's weird.
Honestly I didn’t really like The Boys but I can definitely see the appeal for some people.
The fact that Steve never moved on from a woman he kissed one time after spending 11 years in the modern world is troubling to me.
I love Steve and his story but yeah you’re right lmao dude was down so bad
I mean, there are some people in your life that stays in your heart permanently. I still think of a girl in my class from 10 years ago to this day from time to time.
The MCU can’t do relationships well, I know they’re not the main focus but some there’s just absolutely zero charm or chemistry.
I don't really like Holland's Spider-man's jittery overly infantile persona. He acts like a goofy apologetic overly polite kid, and that works for teen Peter Parker, but I like when Peter transforms as a person when he puts on a mask, becoming snarky and teasing. I haven't seen it in the MCU.
I have a bunch.
“savedaredevil” was not successful and D+ is going to ruin the character and what was once an incredibly compelling story.
I have a some that's been juggling in my head for some time.
I don't really think you can compare James Gunn and Letitia Wright's situations at all.
Most of the movies are not rewatchable IMO. Probably because the plots are basic, most of the jokes aren’t funny the second time and the standout scenes are just… there upon rewatch because you already saw it.
Why would Bucky who is just now recovering from decades of trauma and forced control, who wants to heal and start a new life, take on the helm of captain America? Which would be continuous stress for him. Also the US government wouldn’t even allow that he’s still coming into good graces with them
Eternals is way over hated
As a comic book fan from the 80's, who also played the FASERIP Marvel RPG, the MCU is an absolute wonder and treasure. It's not perfect, but 12 year old me would have wept in joy at seeing how great the MCU has become.
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier is the 2nd best MCU show after Hawkeye. Loki was probably my least favorite
"Thor: the dark world" is the best Thor movie
All the Spider-Man movies are subpar and overrated
the Hawkeye show was very uninteresting, and it had a lot of potential but it was in the end boring and unfunny. Yelena was okay tho
The Winter Soldier is not a top 10 marvel movie, but that doesn’t mean it’s bad whatsoever. Eternals was a very good movie just with too long of a runtime. MOM is a very good movie and did not need 15+ cameos to be good. Moon Knight is the best Marvel Disney+ show. The new daredevil show does not need to be as gruesome and bloody as the old one to be good. Not every show has to have people getting decapitated. Endgame is the best Marvel movie, if not the best CBM ever
People need to take statements from producers and directors a grain of salt. People think EG Thor > IW Thor in terms of overall power
I've got two major ones;
Every Marvel Studios movie and live-action show is good
Mark Ruffalo’s Hulk is the best Hulk. Marvel just doesn’t know what to do with him anymore. Yes, they nerfed him big time for Endgame by not giving him literally any action or fight scenes. But that’s on the Russo’s, not Ruffalo. His portrayal as Hulk / Banner was great on Avengers, Age of Ultron, and Thor: Ragnarok.
They should re-film parts of the Hulk movie with Mark Ruffalo and Mark Ruffalo Hulk added in so it blends into the MCU better. They should also put Don Cheadle in Iron Man 1.
Street level/spy stuff isn't that interesting. It's built on somewhat generic plotlines you could find in other franchises, and weak or underwhelming characters like Black Widow, Hawkeye and Falcon. Most of projects connected to them are inconsistent and poorly made, and trying to make BW and Hawkeye major MCU Avengers was a mistake. Anything focused on Hawkeye is especially bad.
Interesting. I personally loved Homecoming. I thought it was a brilliant, fresh way to tell Peter’s story and do a superhero movie. I love a good John Hughes style coming of age tale.
If Monica makes a cameo at the end of Ms Marvel, instead of Carol, then it's clear they just don't care about Carol at all anymore. And then it's clear that Carol is only there to make other characters good and cool and she's only there to be the big punchbag of the MCU.
Agreed. Honestly it would be pretty weird if Monica was to be the one to cameo in Ms. Marvel with Kamala looking up to Carol and all.. either it should be Carol or no cameo at all
Steve Rogers is put on a pedestal with very little to back it up.
Moon knight is a terrible show and doesn't deserve any praise
If Kevin Feige officially declared Incredible Hulk non-canon, I'd be fine with it.
Team Cap> Team Iron Man
Agree with everything except Daredevil being overrated. The show was a masterpiece and it does deserve all the love it gets. But that's not to say that the other Netflix shows weren't good too. Just nothing even close to Daredevil.
Luke Cage was fucking bore 😴
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is bottom five MCU movie.
moon knight would've been more interesting