Just a heads up, the whole plot of this movie has already leaked. So be warned, if you rummage through internet discussions you're likely to run into information/surprises hidden from the trailers.
I’m psyched for Dr Strange 2, but I was letdown by the post credit being a trailer that we’d just get on YT in a week. I was hoping for extra scenes of No Way Home, maybe clips of the other Spider-Men in their universe, seeing the after effect in their worlds of the villains being turned good/neutralized. Honestly, it was such a fun movie that I didn’t want it to end.
Yeah, to be honest, I was a bit annoyed that they just shoved in a trailer for the post credits "scene". I tend to avoid trailers because they're very spoilery, I've never seen an MCU movie do this before
I was starting to think I was crazy. Everything about it screams Raimi, from movement to blocking, this trailer alone more so than Oz did in its entirety (when discounting the transformation scene in that) hahaha
It would be hilarious if they let Benedict Cumberbatch use his natural accent for the evil Dr Strange to make some joke about how British people are always evil in movies.
If you've been watching them since Ironman came out in 2008 it's really not much. A few movies a year is hardly tough to keep up with. You can skip all the Netflix shows, that just leave a couple of shows in the last year, which all only have 1 short season each.
I mean it's a teaser trailer, there's tons of things we can't make sense of. TV viewers have more of an advantage at this point, but it's not necessarily a big deal. Besides, Westview may be a lock but we can't be certain yet that "evil Dr. Strange" is actually the same Strange Supreme from What If?, unless that's been confirmed somewhere outside of the trailer.
I mean, it looks like there's not going to be much follow up on Wandavision besides that Westview mention and Wanda officially being the Scarlet Witch. I don't think someone has to watch the show to understand that.
The shows get fired in the 1.5-2 million range I believe. That’s no where close to the tickets sold by these movies so most people won’t be familiar with them
I’ve actually really enjoyed the latest batch of marvel movies (minus eternals). Shang-Chi had a good villain, no way home did nostalgia right, and it’s looking like this movie won’t be afraid to be weird.
Will be interested to see if they have the balls to make Wanda a genuine villain in this and not try to redeem her or make her super morally gray. I think redeeming her after the events of WandaVision is already a stretch.
Wanda is a great character because she's a fundamentally good hearted person who keeps fucking up in unintended ways. She's kinda an Anti Villain, doing bad things but has good motives and sometimes its a result of her own trauma and lack of control. Making Wanda a remorseless villain isn't who she is.
i don't see why she can't exist in the area of super morally grey. i'm not saying everyone should forget what happened in wandavision, but it's peanuts to the mistakes doctor strange is about to make. are we going to stop considering him one of the heroes because he messes up?
Disney didn't have enough balls even in WandaVision so I doubt that they would do it in a huge blockbuster. Also previous director left(replaced) because of creative differences too.
I mean, she is morally grey. She shouldn’t be a villain because he’s not a villain. She doesn’t do things to intentionally hurt people. The entire events of WandaVision were beyond her own understanding or control.
So what, she'll just be full on evil after this going forward? I'm fine with her being a morally grey character. She's had villainous moments throughout her character history but she's fundamentally a hero. Changing her into a villain kind of goes against the character.
At this point, it feels like Marvel is just using Doctor Strange the way that sci-fi writers use the word quantum. I'm looking forward to Raimi directing but I'm disappointed that in the MCU Strange has thus far just been plot glue, and yes NWH is included in that even if it did make everyone happy.
what if... and loki are both awesome entries into the multiverse phase of marvel movies! very different from some of the earlier (kinda trashy) marvel spinoff series, imho.
They never said this would be a full on horror film, just that it would have horror elements in it. Which there are a few moments that give it a bit of a horror vibe in this teaser. Plus, it's just the first trailer.
Yeah a lot of the camerawork seems a bit bland compared to his previous work, which is a bit disappointing to see. Maybe the trailer just didn't show it, but I'm a little cautious because my biggest worry was that the producers would try and tone down his style.
There were definitely a few shots and set designs that gave me heavy raimi vibes, those shots of the decrepit sanctum at least seem very evil dead/spider man 1
Don't forget she didn't just cause mental torture. She also basically destroyed half the town with the final fight, and potentially cost people their jobs or worse since she cut them off from all reality for multiple weeks. You got imagine some of the people in the West View an elderly relative to live outside of town, that they would sometimes go and visit or even help with housework. Well, when does Westview citizens were brainwashed and detained for a month oh, maybe grandma died two towns over? Maybe this mall antique store three Towns over there was run by the family and Westview went out of business? Maybe there was a three-year-old in Daycare Two Towns over that was never picked up by Mom and Dad oh, because they were mind slaves?
Definitely agree. The multiverse stuff can be used to introduce any number of call backs or fan service. Each marvel movie is just a well made commercial for the next, and they always have been.
I don’t quite understand what you mean by that. If it’s a Marvel movie then aren’t I signing up to watch a Marvel movie? When Ragnarok was coming out that was still Marvel bullshit but it changed the game for the character. Doctor Strange hasn’t had his own movie in 6 years so we really haven’t had a chance to see where his own story is heading. Either way I’ve always enjoyed the fiction in the comics and I’m sure I’ll enjoy the 3 hours of how they continue this universe. And technically they softened us up with a taste in No Way Home so I’m almost positive we’ll see something unique in the next step. Right?
The thing about these marvel movies is that they are wildly predictable. Even with the addition to multiverse shit and the possible variety it gives, they still went with the corniest play by making dr. Strange himself an antagonist.
Jesus Christ can we have one stand-alone film that doesn’t cross-integrate other characters as a part of a massive branding campaign. I just want to see Doctor Strange.
Or something with literally any style that's not just Disney gloss and wardrobes that look like they are real clothes as oppose to every single character in the MCU using the same tailor lol.
Just a heads up, the whole plot of this movie has already leaked. So be warned, if you rummage through internet discussions you're likely to run into information/surprises hidden from the trailers.
That multiversal mashup of the older Marvel logos is sick
Into the Spiderverse goes even crazier with their logos
Same trailer shown in No Way Home post credits for those wondering! (There's also a mid credit scene though).
Basically the last moments of No Way Home were directed by Raimi. It's like poetry.
I’m psyched for Dr Strange 2, but I was letdown by the post credit being a trailer that we’d just get on YT in a week. I was hoping for extra scenes of No Way Home, maybe clips of the other Spider-Men in their universe, seeing the after effect in their worlds of the villains being turned good/neutralized. Honestly, it was such a fun movie that I didn’t want it to end.
Trailer was shown in IMAX also and looked amazing.
Yeah, to be honest, I was a bit annoyed that they just shoved in a trailer for the post credits "scene". I tend to avoid trailers because they're very spoilery, I've never seen an MCU movie do this before
Is that the Dr Strange from the What If show at the end?
I feel like the trailer making him look like a bad guy is just a misdirect and he'll probably end up aiding regular Strange
I don't think we can tell that from this.
Yes. Strange Supreme.
What if…this was actually a disguised remake of Superman 3?
When I say I’m going to go battle myself, I just mean I’m going to masturbate!
Yeah seems like it. Bizzaro Strange.
No…it’s not. It could be a million things from decades of Dr Strange material.
No
I don't think so. That Strange ended up being a Jailer for the suped up Ultron.
If it is,it's kinda dissapointing how plain he looks. In the show he looked a lot cooler.
Now there are two of them!
Looks different, I'm guessing another variant.
Wanda, I’m here to talk to you about the Multiverse initiative
I love it.
"And also mind frag you"
Out of all MCU projects yet to be released this is my most anticipated.
We're probably getting a Bruce Campbell cameo too. MCU chin-game gonna get a major boost!
Wait what? Raimi is directing this? FUCK YES. My anticipation just turned up to 11.
Mine's Thor: Love and Thunder.
I hope we get a Strange vs. Strange fight that's a copy of the Ash vs. Ash fight from Army of Darkness.
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Prepare for glorious nose/eyes close ups and blood curdling screams.
Sam Raimi is doing this? how did I miss that?!
Raimi put a full-on Evil Ash in Dr Strange
Hope Rachel McAdams has a bigger role than the one that got away
Does this count as Rachel McAdams' 5th time-travel-boyfriend movie?
How about being the one that got away in every conceivable reality?
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She's supposed to. Hell, when the movie was first announced she wasn't even in it.
Is she really something that should be a big part of a multiverse madness thing though?
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She is in an amazing What if?? Episode where she is the most tragic "the one that got away".
The cracked mirror Marvel intro change is nicely done.
Strange Supreme!!!
Also Defender Strange!
Is that a new Taco Bell item??
Shuma Gorath mains rise up
That's supposed to be Gargantos, I think. Shuma wouldn't need to throw buses
The Lego set for the movie actually has it named as Gargantos. A different one eyes green tentacle monster.
Looking at the upcoming Lego sets, its supposed to be Gargantos. No idea, why Marvel made him look exactly like Shuma Gorath tho.
🎶Gonna take you for a ride🎶
Sadly its not Shuma Gorath. Its Gargantos from the comics. Lego sets are already out.
Since the first marvel vs Capcom here! Hope it's the guy and not gargantos.
Shoutout to TNS, Angelic and Salute
Imagine if strange hits him with the tac infinite
I'm gonna take you for a ride!
I saw No Way Home yesterday and when this trailer hit at the end I absolutely lost it when I saw Shuma Gorath
I’m intrigued. This looks weird and interesting.
I think Campbell might be another multiverse version of Dr Strange
Give me Wonder Man or give me death
Mysterio
I'd love him to play Captain **** but he might be too old for that
Bruce Campbell will be Andrew Garfield's Doc Ock in a post-credits scene.
Mephisto
He's playing a ’73 Oldsmobile Delta 88.
Hopefully, one of his Spider-Man roles.
More Wanda is always a good thing.
People saying this doesn't have any of Raimi's style have never watched a Raimi movie outside of the Spider-Man trilogy.
Counter point: this trailer had 0 gross fluids gushing into dr strange's open mouth
I was starting to think I was crazy. Everything about it screams Raimi, from movement to blocking, this trailer alone more so than Oz did in its entirety (when discounting the transformation scene in that) hahaha
Plus the Spider-Man trailers never really showcased Raimi’s style.
Yeah the trailer is giving me more Drag Me to Hell vibes than Spider-Man vibes.
Yup same here. Looks distinctly Raimi in my eye. Lots of shots remind me of Evil Dead and Darkman
Also, trailers aren’t edited by the filmmakers. There’s gonna be a wildly different edit style.
I just wish Bill Pope would've shot this one as well
From what I remember, his Oz movie didn't really pop. I had other problems with it though
Spiderman had all those things too though...?
That glorious Raimi tilt!
All this cause Peter couldn't get into MIT
Does this contain spoilers for NWH?
Not really, no.
Just what is shown in the NWH trailers- Peter and Dr strange fuck up the universe.
Spoils one of NWH's post-credits.
Not really if you‘ve already watched the trailer for Spider-Man: No Way Home
It would be hilarious if they let Benedict Cumberbatch use his natural accent for the evil Dr Strange to make some joke about how British people are always evil in movies.
Could be an alternate universe where Dr Strange, Spider-Man, Wong, Eddie Brock, Dr Octopus all use their original British accent.
This is one of those ideas that will not stop thinking about when watching this movie now....
Teaser? This is two-minutes long lol
I believe the teaser for NWH was like three minutes. It was longer than the "official" trailer
“Teaser” has less to do with length and more to do with what is shown.
Lmao. Wanda just being let off the hook for mind raping a whole town.
Holy shit, they actually made a trailer that doesn't end on a nauseating quip! Am I dreaming?
"Pizza Time? what spell is this?"
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You need to see people following like 30+ animes in parallel. Those guys are truly mad.
If you've been watching them since Ironman came out in 2008 it's really not much. A few movies a year is hardly tough to keep up with. You can skip all the Netflix shows, that just leave a couple of shows in the last year, which all only have 1 short season each.
It’s nothing, I’m still a Wednesday warrior at the comic shop.
Eh not really, it's what 60 hrs of content? I can bang that out in week easy.
Strange Supreme?
Not everyone that has a different hair style is a variant. I think that’s just Mordo with different hair
America Chavez is going to helpful getting around the multiverse lol
So excited for America Chavez's debut, I loved her in the 2015 Ultimates book, hell I'd love for that team to get their own film somehow as well
I know this won't be the majority cause the Disney+ shows got so much love over the last year.
They're pretty good with exposition in their movies to get everyone up to speed. Even in the trailer strange mentions westview.
I mean it's a teaser trailer, there's tons of things we can't make sense of. TV viewers have more of an advantage at this point, but it's not necessarily a big deal. Besides, Westview may be a lock but we can't be certain yet that "evil Dr. Strange" is actually the same Strange Supreme from What If?, unless that's been confirmed somewhere outside of the trailer.
Well if they watch only movies, they should be comfortable by now with the multiverse notion and can easily appreciate "Oh shit, dark/evil Strange."
People who follow the shows will be delighted to see the ramifications of WandaVision.
I mean, it looks like there's not going to be much follow up on Wandavision besides that Westview mention and Wanda officially being the Scarlet Witch. I don't think someone has to watch the show to understand that.
He says it has nothing to do with what she did in the show so it really doesn’t matter if you saw it or not.
The shows get fired in the 1.5-2 million range I believe. That’s no where close to the tickets sold by these movies so most people won’t be familiar with them
That's how they get you to buy Disney+.
Yeah this isn't gonna be an issue.
Do you really think people are this dumb? The premise in the teaser seems pretty simple.
This multiverse shenanigans all have only one possible solution:
When you think you have things in hand and then an evil version of you walks into the room.
I’ve actually really enjoyed the latest batch of marvel movies (minus eternals). Shang-Chi had a good villain, no way home did nostalgia right, and it’s looking like this movie won’t be afraid to be weird.
Gimme Bruce Campbell as alternate universe strange with a chainsaw hand lmao
Ok fine I'll watch it.
Strange v strange? I’m in!
Will be interested to see if they have the balls to make Wanda a genuine villain in this and not try to redeem her or make her super morally gray. I think redeeming her after the events of WandaVision is already a stretch.
There’s rumours a lot of the reshoots were to significantly tone down Wanda as the villain because test audiences didn’t like it
Wanda is a great character because she's a fundamentally good hearted person who keeps fucking up in unintended ways. She's kinda an Anti Villain, doing bad things but has good motives and sometimes its a result of her own trauma and lack of control. Making Wanda a remorseless villain isn't who she is.
i don't see why she can't exist in the area of super morally grey. i'm not saying everyone should forget what happened in wandavision, but it's peanuts to the mistakes doctor strange is about to make. are we going to stop considering him one of the heroes because he messes up?
I dunno,they left her off the hook pretty easy over the whole mind co trol business in WV.
Disney didn't have enough balls even in WandaVision so I doubt that they would do it in a huge blockbuster. Also previous director left(replaced) because of creative differences too.
I mean, she is morally grey. She shouldn’t be a villain because he’s not a villain. She doesn’t do things to intentionally hurt people. The entire events of WandaVision were beyond her own understanding or control.
So what, she'll just be full on evil after this going forward? I'm fine with her being a morally grey character. She's had villainous moments throughout her character history but she's fundamentally a hero. Changing her into a villain kind of goes against the character.
At this point, it feels like Marvel is just using Doctor Strange the way that sci-fi writers use the word quantum. I'm looking forward to Raimi directing but I'm disappointed that in the MCU Strange has thus far just been plot glue, and yes NWH is included in that even if it did make everyone happy.
I think it's alright. We had Stark, Pym, Asgard and Wakanda technology for the whole Infinity Saga.
In my theater when this was the end credit stinger, some guy behind me audibly said "well that was fucking lame" lmao
Honestly, I don't give half a fuck about the rest of the MCU, but I will always be down for more Doctor Strange.
Glad I'm getting caught up on the shows before this comes out.
what if... and loki are both awesome entries into the multiverse phase of marvel movies! very different from some of the earlier (kinda trashy) marvel spinoff series, imho.
Give me live-action Shuma-Gorath or some eldritch stuff please.
Dude that looks exactly like what a live action Shuma Gorath would look like, he even got those tiny spikes/eyelash thingies.
Lmao remember when they said this was gonna be a horror movie?
I think that the movie we get is going to be completely different from the one it was supposed to be at first.
Scott Derrickson want to do so for the first film too but Disney didn't let him.
Raimi can do horror even in a non horror film.
You’ve seen one trailer, chill my dude.
They never said this would be a full on horror film, just that it would have horror elements in it. Which there are a few moments that give it a bit of a horror vibe in this teaser. Plus, it's just the first trailer.
From a pure cinematography standpoint this is my most hyped marvel movie. It is gonna look beautiful.
From a pure cinematography standpoint this is my most hyped marvel movie. It is gonna look beautiful.
It looks kinda washed out lmao
Hoping for more of Raimi's style to come through in the actual film, cause this teaser (stylistically) did not give much.
Not getting any Raimi vibes from this. Hope the next trailer changes that
I thought that dutch shot of the dragon spell firing out was pure Raimi - straight out of Quick and the Dead or Evil Dead 2
that shot with the watch and the reflection felt VERY Raimi to me, he loves reflections
If we don't get overacting extras screaming directly into the camera, what even is the point
Pizza time Dr. Strange in multiple dimensions? Sign me up
This will be a Feige film first and a Raimi film second.
I absolutely disagree, thought it was very explicit, especially when I saw the trailer in the theatre.
Yeah a lot of the camerawork seems a bit bland compared to his previous work, which is a bit disappointing to see. Maybe the trailer just didn't show it, but I'm a little cautious because my biggest worry was that the producers would try and tone down his style.
I'm hoping marvel studios didn't neuter Raimi's style
Next trailer is 2 minutes of people being thrown through glass.
There were definitely a few shots and set designs that gave me heavy raimi vibes, those shots of the decrepit sanctum at least seem very evil dead/spider man 1
The whole trailer feels like raimi lol, have you seen any of his movies outside of Spiderman?
Benedict Cumberbatch enjoys a paycheck.
First I never thought I'd see a Celestial, then I never thought I'd see Shuma-Gorath, now I have no idea what to expect.
That's not Shuma-Gorath in the teaser though.
Will they make Wanda a villain? Because they wanted to make her sympathetic on Wandavision ... while ignoring the obvious mental torture she caused.
Don't forget she didn't just cause mental torture. She also basically destroyed half the town with the final fight, and potentially cost people their jobs or worse since she cut them off from all reality for multiple weeks. You got imagine some of the people in the West View an elderly relative to live outside of town, that they would sometimes go and visit or even help with housework. Well, when does Westview citizens were brainwashed and detained for a month oh, maybe grandma died two towns over? Maybe this mall antique store three Towns over there was run by the family and Westview went out of business? Maybe there was a three-year-old in Daycare Two Towns over that was never picked up by Mom and Dad oh, because they were mind slaves?
Am I the only one who thinks Benedict Cumberbatch's hair piece looks ridiculously bad? It looks like a helmet.
That looks like Shuma Gorath throwing the bus at Dr Strange
I'm not the biggest Dr. Strange fan but I'll admit that this looks good.
I'm trying to only watch movies with Benedict Cumberbatch doing a mostly passable American Accent. I'm gunna be busy.
Was that Shuma Gorath or not!?
Not sure how anyone else feels, but I'm already tired of the multi-verse stuff.
Definitely agree. The multiverse stuff can be used to introduce any number of call backs or fan service. Each marvel movie is just a well made commercial for the next, and they always have been.
I agree. I am completely uninterested in an MCU multiverse.
Well, where are you gonna go if you already saved the universe so many times…
Free Tibet
I'll take it!
The most disappointing thing is that this looks like more MCU bullshit instead of something unique, which I thought was the goal by hiring Sam Raimi.
If “Marvel” is in the title, it means more MCU bullshit unfortunately.
Whole point is to make movies and money forever.
More MCU bullshit? Sounds good to me.
I don’t quite understand what you mean by that. If it’s a Marvel movie then aren’t I signing up to watch a Marvel movie? When Ragnarok was coming out that was still Marvel bullshit but it changed the game for the character. Doctor Strange hasn’t had his own movie in 6 years so we really haven’t had a chance to see where his own story is heading. Either way I’ve always enjoyed the fiction in the comics and I’m sure I’ll enjoy the 3 hours of how they continue this universe. And technically they softened us up with a taste in No Way Home so I’m almost positive we’ll see something unique in the next step. Right?
So is marvel pretty much Harry Potter now?
Funny enough there’s a rumor floating around Emma Watson might have been cast to cameo in the movie
Not even a speck of Raimi's style in this. Not surprising but still disappointing.
Two minutes of footage and it’s suddenly “not really a Raimi movie”
Disney gloss as far as the eyes can see.
Yeah, it looks like just another Marvel movie, nothing really screamed Raimi to me. Sort of underwhelming after all of the talk about it.
Might actually see this in theaters because some of those visuals are mega rad.
The thing about these marvel movies is that they are wildly predictable. Even with the addition to multiverse shit and the possible variety it gives, they still went with the corniest play by making dr. Strange himself an antagonist.
So far fans have got pretty much most of the major stuff wrong.
Marvel copying CWs The Flash lmao
We heard you guys like villains that are mirror copies of the Hero so we did it again but more.
Jesus Christ can we have one stand-alone film that doesn’t cross-integrate other characters as a part of a massive branding campaign. I just want to see Doctor Strange.
No. - The Mouse
Or something with literally any style that's not just Disney gloss and wardrobes that look like they are real clothes as oppose to every single character in the MCU using the same tailor lol.