[Charania] The NBA has fined the Dallas Mavericks $100,000 for violating league rules regarding bench decorum. Now $175,000 in fines for Mavericks this postseason.
Oh, it is serious. Five citations, and you're looking at a violation. Four of those, and you'll receive a verbal warning. Keep it up, and you're looking at a written warning. Two of those, that will land you in a world of hurt, in the form of a disciplinary review, written up by me, and placed on the desk of my immediate superior.
The fine doubles every time. First it was $25K, then $50K, and now $100K. If they keep this up, there would be a $400K fine in game 6 of this series and a $1.6 million fine in game 4 of the NBA Finals, for a total of $3.125 million dollars in fines. I think Mark Cuban would actually start caring at that point.
1 point per possession is a pretty reasonable estimate, and it's definitely worth. Imagine if a player being paid $1M could cause a 10 point differential ($100k/pt)
The players on the bench constantly stand up. Like lets say maxey is shooting a corner three he could hurt himself since the mavs bench continuously stands Edit:spelled maxeys name right
Mavs bench are mostly standing the whole game and they’re very near the sideline, sometimes almost on the court. This could cause injuries to players because they could trip them or block the landing spot when shooting.
The mavs bench have been non-stop in their support of the out court play, to the point where they score a basket and multiple dudes are marching up the sideline like they just hit a game winner it’s getting ridiculous at this point
Yeah, if the NBA actually cared about this they'd just give technicals for it. After 2-3 techs I assure you Mavs players would not crowd the entire out of bounds line.
Why is the bench so close to the court anyway, these players are some of the tallest human beings in the world and they're sitting 4 feet from the line in the tiniest folding chair
I don’t think it matters that much if they stand, but they shouldn’t be able to wear street clothes that stand out from their teammates or that are the same color as the opponents’ jerseys. That seems like the biggest no-brainer, just make them wear their own warmups or sit at the very end of the bench.
The biggest issue is they keep stepping onto the court. They should really get t’d up for anytime one of the steps on the court, even if it’s just on the out of bounds line.
You absolutely should not be able to stand right up against the out of bounds line for the entire duration of the game. Just because you’re technically “out of bounds” doesn’t mean that it won’t potentially interfere with the game.
Honestly, should be a warning, then followed by technical fouls. It's not just the play where Curry threw it away, it's also the risk on injury if a corner three shooter lands on the players' feet.
I just don't understand how fines this hefty can be coming down from the league, but the refs in the game just pretend like nothing's happening. How hard is it to give the bench a tech and tell them to sit down?
I say progressive punishment. Warning, Fine, Tech, Coach Suspension, Game forfeit, Loss of Draft Picks. Mfs like Cuban are too rich. Gotta hit them where it hurts
ngl the shit the mavericks is doing with the bench is so bush league that imo they should have to forfeit the playoffs, and retroactively forfeit all previous playoff games. that level of fuckery is just so annoying to me that i've already lost all respect for the mavs may think im being hyperbolic but im dead fuckin serious.
I'm honestly surprised this isn't a warning and tech situation. Obviously the fines don't matter to Cuban and they 100% encourage the team to do it. But if the refs were able to throw out technical fouls it would definitely get them to stop.
They’re totally not going to stop doing it for that lol. I don’t care as much about the wearing the same colour, waving for the ball is a bit more cheeky but well done, you fooled us. I’m more worried about players getting injured from them standing on the line or very close to it. That’s not cool at all.
The whattabout-isms mavs fans are trying to invoke is so stupid. Yes, anyone who pulls this shit should not only be fined but be getting techs. This isn't basketball.
I don't remember a team being so aggressive in where they are standing the entire game. It definitely seems like they are trying to gain an edge being so close and trying to effect play on the court. This is one of the main reasons why the bench conduct rules exist in the first place.
They also scream like children when they stand up to distract. I know I know "A pro should be able to shoot despite the crowd noise" but in my opinion it's different. Mavs are kinda bitch move imo.
Happening again tonight. After the head official asked the one dude to change and he refused. Who is that guy anyways and can we make him a meme at this point??!
Stern suspended Amare and Boris Diaw for stepping on the court after a Robert Horry hip check on Steve Nash. Have the balls Adam Silver to do the same if you’re serious about this other wise who cares lol.
It's a smart move, and Cuban certainly doesn't give a shit about the drop in a bucket penalty. But why on earth would you want to win like that? How could you be proud walking out of a game you you win by 1 point and caused a turnover like this?
They could also call a technical and start tossing them on the sideline, especially opposite team color dude in civilian clothes standing right on the line all game long. Toss him already, Mark probably paid him and he did exactly what was ordered.
There isn't a single fan outside of Dallas that pays their cable bill to see some untalented idiot who isn't even dressed to play affect the game. I was actually rooting for the Warriors to lose until this moron decided to attempt to affect the game without being skilled enough to participate in it. Now I hope the Mav's franchise crashes and burns for decades. Not a single fan wants to see this.
Nope but I think they should too. Because they don’t fine one team doesn’t mean another team should do it. I’m all for equal punishment but it doesn’t take away that the Mavs are repeated offenders and shouldn’t be doing it.
This won’t make them change. They are 2 games from being eliminated and are desperate. There is going to be a preventable injury. They need a few technicals and a coaches suspension.
I don’t think Mavs fans get that we don’t care if they stand, but they need to be backed up and out of the way. Oh and if you’re in street clothes, don’t wear the other teams colors and be waving your hands right on the baseline for the ball.
It should be a technical to interfere with the game from the bench. Start giving the other team points for this Maverick BS. 2nd tech and they have to leave the court.
nba fan and have never watched such an annoying and unprofessional team like the dallas mavericks, between the constant doncic flops and their bench / coach literally on the court the entire game they have zero respect, can't wait for this team to be out, they are lucky they ran into a broken jazz and choke suns team b/c they aren't even a play-off team w/o doncic
I think you need to get some air, dude. I'm a GSW fan who finds the bench thing deplorable, and they aren't even near the bottom of the barrel this year let alone recently.
"The league is worried about the wrong thing," Kidd said after the first fine was assessed. "You have millionaires cheering on other millionaires. Doesn't happen in this society. And the enthusiasm of the game, for a teammate to cheer on another teammate is special. And I think sometimes we're focused on the wrong thing. And so when you look at people who make a lot of money cheering on their teammates or their employees, that's what sport is all about. And so for us to get fined, that's cool. It's going to another good cause, charity. But again, we're looking at the wrong thing."
Completely understand the concerns on how close they are to the game i.e giving players in the corner ample room. But this has to be the first fine levied in the history of the NBA because of a bad pass. Steph turns the ball over and now we’re gonna legislate what color shirt someone can wear? Heat were in white warmups last night with the Celtics wearing white
He had his hand up and was calling for the ball. That isn't basketball, therefore it should be prevented when it literally affects the game. T' them up.
The Mavs had bench players wearing tees the same color as the warriors. Then the the bench players were standing up on the sidelines. Pretty much a low rent type of cheating. The refs should call a tech every time they do this.
I like how the Mavs were doing the same shit in the series with the Suns and everybody here were lauding them as the hero underdogs but now that they play the Warriors they are dirty cheaters.
Seems like it's just because the spoiled fans sitting courtside are complaining because they paid lots of money to see a game and their view is blocked by the players they paid a lot of money to see.
I may not know Mark Cuban personally, but I can comfortably say that I don't think he gives a single fuck
His employees already know, amirite
He really doesn't, just look at this clip lol one of my favorite non nba Cuban moments
I think he was pissed when he lost 200k in the Iron Stablecoin fiasco. But winning a championship means alot more and he might just say f it.
Something something dairy queen
He should. If he cares about the game. Plenty of guys avoiding serious injuries all because they can’t follow a grade school rule about benches.
Oh, it is serious. Five citations, and you're looking at a violation. Four of those, and you'll receive a verbal warning. Keep it up, and you're looking at a written warning. Two of those, that will land you in a world of hurt, in the form of a disciplinary review, written up by me, and placed on the desk of my immediate superior.
Not as bad as a full disadulation
Next it'll be double secret probation.
- Adam Silver
UFC warning style
… which would be me
Gold, Jerry!
The fine doubles every time. First it was $25K, then $50K, and now $100K. If they keep this up, there would be a $400K fine in game 6 of this series and a $1.6 million fine in game 4 of the NBA Finals, for a total of $3.125 million dollars in fines. I think Mark Cuban would actually start caring at that point.
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unexpectedoffice
Cuban: Fuck it
It was funny to see Cuban having to move around and tippy toe to watch the game over his guys.
Cuban: if I say it again, then do I get to donate another 100K
Cuban: How much more do you want me to donate to charity?
[удалено]
He’d probably straight-up pay $175,000 to force the Warriors to commit a turnover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJjjAeob_Ms
Mavs: And I'll do it again bitch
Worth it to force a turnover per game for $100K in the WCF?
Lmao Cuban doesn’t care. If 100k is the fine, bench will be wearing warriors road jerseys and shorts tonight
It definitely is lmao
Cuban says sure why not
"I make that while taking a shit" - Cuban, probably
Exactly
Fine seems to doubling every time though...
1 point per possession is a pretty reasonable estimate, and it's definitely worth. Imagine if a player being paid $1M could cause a 10 point differential ($100k/pt)
And lose ?
That’s not why they were fined. No one besides Reddit cares about Pinson wearing white and calling for a pass.
NBA implements a fee that allows folks in street clothes on the court during game
Anthony Davis in shambles
pay to win. well, pay to still lose.
What does this mean for Mark Cubans legacy
Scaled to the average American’s net-worth, that’s roughly $4.47 to Mark Cuban. Poor dude will have to skip a vegan breakfast sandwich this morning.
Damn gonna have to skip my 2nd Starbucks run of the day
Sad avocado toast noises.
Bruh where you getting vegan breakfast sandwiches for only $4.47?
If my work was fining me $4.47 for stuff I'd be pissed
Can someone explain what this is I have no idea ?
The players on the bench constantly stand up. Like lets say maxey is shooting a corner three he could hurt himself since the mavs bench continuously stands Edit:spelled maxeys name right
Mavs bench are mostly standing the whole game and they’re very near the sideline, sometimes almost on the court. This could cause injuries to players because they could trip them or block the landing spot when shooting.
The mavs bench have been non-stop in their support of the out court play, to the point where they score a basket and multiple dudes are marching up the sideline like they just hit a game winner it’s getting ridiculous at this point
They have more assistant coaches than any other team and there’s not enough seats so some players have to stand.
“Hahahhahahaha who gives a fuck?” - Mark Cuban
Yeah, if the NBA actually cared about this they'd just give technicals for it. After 2-3 techs I assure you Mavs players would not crowd the entire out of bounds line.
Kerr said he didn't care either.
Fines won’t do anything to change it
Mark Cuban has been paying fines for 20 years. He's used to it lol.
Agreed. Proposed rule change: players in team attire can sit in the first row of the bench. Otherwise second row.
Why is the bench so close to the court anyway, these players are some of the tallest human beings in the world and they're sitting 4 feet from the line in the tiniest folding chair
Cuban found the fine in between his couch cushions
These fines are not going to do shit lmao, only techs will make them change
Could the refs just start the game with a warning for Dallas kinda like they do in baseball?
I vote a rule change where the fines are paid, and cumulatively added as a negative to the salary cap the next season.
Yea they have to start giving them techs.
Lol Cuban don't give a fuck
It's not even just turnovers, it can cause a player missing their shot.
Pocket change for Mr. Cuban
Cuban got these fines auto-charged from his card like a 5$ subscribtion
Equivalent of like a super minor crypto investment
have they been fined every series so far?
I don’t think it matters that much if they stand, but they shouldn’t be able to wear street clothes that stand out from their teammates or that are the same color as the opponents’ jerseys. That seems like the biggest no-brainer, just make them wear their own warmups or sit at the very end of the bench.
ngl I would miss The Joker Simmon's wild takes on what a good look is.
The biggest issue is they keep stepping onto the court. They should really get t’d up for anytime one of the steps on the court, even if it’s just on the out of bounds line.
Shouldn’t be standing on the out of bounds line though. Gotta be back a couple feet.
You absolutely should not be able to stand right up against the out of bounds line for the entire duration of the game. Just because you’re technically “out of bounds” doesn’t mean that it won’t potentially interfere with the game.
Heat have been doing this too, idk why they are making this such a big deal when other teams are doing it.
Miami seems to have adopted the same strategy
Lol fine them $1 million
And then 10 and the 100.
nba should make team fines come off the salary cap
haha chaotic but i love this, even (especially) as a Draymond fan
I hate how nba has no fucking room around the damn court. it's pathetic
Dallas is now on Double Secret Probation!
“It’s time for someone to put their foot down and that foot is me” - Adam Silver
Fine floppers you cowards!
I want the mavs fans behind the bench to dress like European royalty and hold signs about decorum.
I just feel bad for the fans who bought tickets right behind visitors bench. If they can’t see, not like they can get an usher to make em sit.
I think Mr Silver is mad
I don’t think he really cares. The fines are just a PR move.
I'd say start making the fines count against the salary cap. first fine 1x, second fine 5x, third fine 10x and so on.
Ooo i like this
Why not just call a technical on the bench every time he stands up?
They do just stand on the edge of the court for the entire game.
They won't do a damn thing until someone hits a 3 and breaks their ankle because some dumbass player is standing 1 inch behind them.
Should start giving them techs
Honestly, should be a warning, then followed by technical fouls. It's not just the play where Curry threw it away, it's also the risk on injury if a corner three shooter lands on the players' feet.
I just don't understand how fines this hefty can be coming down from the league, but the refs in the game just pretend like nothing's happening. How hard is it to give the bench a tech and tell them to sit down?
I say progressive punishment. Warning, Fine, Tech, Coach Suspension, Game forfeit, Loss of Draft Picks. Mfs like Cuban are too rich. Gotta hit them where it hurts
ngl the shit the mavericks is doing with the bench is so bush league that imo they should have to forfeit the playoffs, and retroactively forfeit all previous playoff games. that level of fuckery is just so annoying to me that i've already lost all respect for the mavs may think im being hyperbolic but im dead fuckin serious.
Theo Pinson has gotten more fines than his contract value?
This just makes Silver look like an idiot. Either ignore the violation or enforce the rule. Assessing insignificant fines is just silly.
Oh wow, this is the first time I connected the Mavs' bench behavior with Kidd's previous sideline shenanigans.
Clearly Cuban is willing to pay the fines, refs need to hand out techs in-game and maybe they’ll learn
Just like they should have handed more techs to Dray, right? Lmao
I'm honestly surprised this isn't a warning and tech situation. Obviously the fines don't matter to Cuban and they 100% encourage the team to do it. But if the refs were able to throw out technical fouls it would definitely get them to stop.
Cuban got that
In game tech coming in 3…2…1..
They should be fining 100k for each player
They’re totally not going to stop doing it for that lol. I don’t care as much about the wearing the same colour, waving for the ball is a bit more cheeky but well done, you fooled us. I’m more worried about players getting injured from them standing on the line or very close to it. That’s not cool at all.
God what a dirty team. Shameful.
Wearing the color of the opposing teams jersey shouldn’t be allowed.
like the heat with the celtics yesterday?
It's just a white shirt all the fans are wearing white anyway
Theo Pinson- “you want to see us do it again?”
Lose?
I know it’s not really practical, but they should move the benches back like a foot. It just seems like a smart idea tbh
How about the Heat then? They do the same thing. Double standard as always when it comes to an unpopular team.
Fuck the whataboutism. It’s wrong when any team does it, but the Mavs are the worst about it by a mile.
First off, I ain't mad at it, I like seeing people actually care about the game.
Why risk getting hurt?
will they fine the Miami bench for standing up the whole game and wearing the same color clothes as Boston?
hopefully
I hope so. But I would prefer instead of fines if the refs just made them change their clothes.
The whattabout-isms mavs fans are trying to invoke is so stupid. Yes, anyone who pulls this shit should not only be fined but be getting techs. This isn't basketball.
This is not going to deter them at all lmao.
They ought to use that money amd refund the ticketholders whose view was blocked the whole game.
Yep t them up. 2 techs for this in 1 game should have the head coach ejected
Lol what did they do?
they walking almost on the court when game live
This does a decent job of explaining it:
Had two players on the bench wearing white (same as warriors' jerseys) who would put there hands up like they wanted a pass.
I don't remember a team being so aggressive in where they are standing the entire game. It definitely seems like they are trying to gain an edge being so close and trying to effect play on the court. This is one of the main reasons why the bench conduct rules exist in the first place.
Mark doesn't give a fuck.
So basically they ain’t doing jack shit about it.
fines don't do anything. either enforce it with sideline warnings and techs, or just leave it alone.
Theo Pinson just happy that people know wtf he is
They also scream like children when they stand up to distract. I know I know "A pro should be able to shoot despite the crowd noise" but in my opinion it's different. Mavs are kinda bitch move imo.
Happening again tonight. After the head official asked the one dude to change and he refused. Who is that guy anyways and can we make him a meme at this point??!
Dude I thought Elon was fucked but damn Mark Cuban and the Maverick’s..how can they keep the lights on?
CALL SOME TECHNICALS FINING OWNERS PENNIES DOESNT DO ANYTHING
Needs to be technical free throws every time until it stops.
Give em a tech. One lil FT and Kidd will make sure theyll sit down. But its their tactics. Lame as fuck if you ask me. Some bush league shit
Just stop the game and make them change their clothes. Solved.
Stern suspended Amare and Boris Diaw for stepping on the court after a Robert Horry hip check on Steve Nash. Have the balls Adam Silver to do the same if you’re serious about this other wise who cares lol.
I'm surprised Anthony Davis hasn't been fined yet, he's always in street clothes!
If you ain’t cheatin you ain’t tryin
I want to see one of our guys do a spin move with his elbow just a little too far out and catch a couple of them who are crowding the court.
This league loves dipping into Cuban's pockets
Fuck it-
It's a smart move, and Cuban certainly doesn't give a shit about the drop in a bucket penalty. But why on earth would you want to win like that? How could you be proud walking out of a game you you win by 1 point and caused a turnover like this?
Mavs are desperate. They have no shame in playing dirty.
Fine them a veteran's minimum.
They could also call a technical and start tossing them on the sideline, especially opposite team color dude in civilian clothes standing right on the line all game long. Toss him already, Mark probably paid him and he did exactly what was ordered.
There isn't a single fan outside of Dallas that pays their cable bill to see some untalented idiot who isn't even dressed to play affect the game. I was actually rooting for the Warriors to lose until this moron decided to attempt to affect the game without being skilled enough to participate in it. Now I hope the Mav's franchise crashes and burns for decades. Not a single fan wants to see this.
Did they fine the heat last game too?
Nope but I think they should too. Because they don’t fine one team doesn’t mean another team should do it. I’m all for equal punishment but it doesn’t take away that the Mavs are repeated offenders and shouldn’t be doing it.
Mavs can't beat them on the court, so they have to to beat them off.
Damn people are super mad about this lol
Love the softness of this comment but every team does this.
This won’t make them change. They are 2 games from being eliminated and are desperate. There is going to be a preventable injury. They need a few technicals and a coaches suspension.
I mean if they continue, you could always suspend Kidd for not restraining his players on the bench.
Cheating
Fined 100K for cheating. There fixed it for you
Suspend Mark Cuban for a game and this shit stops real quick.
I don’t think Mavs fans get that we don’t care if they stand, but they need to be backed up and out of the way. Oh and if you’re in street clothes, don’t wear the other teams colors and be waving your hands right on the baseline for the ball.
But when the heat do it it's okay?
It’s not okay when anyone does it.
No. Never OK.
It should be a technical to interfere with the game from the bench. Start giving the other team points for this Maverick BS. 2nd tech and they have to leave the court.
nba fan and have never watched such an annoying and unprofessional team like the dallas mavericks, between the constant doncic flops and their bench / coach literally on the court the entire game they have zero respect, can't wait for this team to be out, they are lucky they ran into a broken jazz and choke suns team b/c they aren't even a play-off team w/o doncic
I think you need to get some air, dude. I'm a GSW fan who finds the bench thing deplorable, and they aren't even near the bottom of the barrel this year let alone recently.
"The league is worried about the wrong thing," Kidd said after the first fine was assessed. "You have millionaires cheering on other millionaires. Doesn't happen in this society. And the enthusiasm of the game, for a teammate to cheer on another teammate is special. And I think sometimes we're focused on the wrong thing. And so when you look at people who make a lot of money cheering on their teammates or their employees, that's what sport is all about. And so for us to get fined, that's cool. It's going to another good cause, charity. But again, we're looking at the wrong thing."
Lol what a shitty take. Millionaires cheering on other millionaires?! Wow.
Wow I genuinely thought you made that quote up until I Googled. Idiotic take by Kidd, thanks for sharing.
Suspend the rowdy bench players lol
Curry threw the ball to a Mavs bench player by accident. I’m sure Cuban thinks that turnover alone was worth $175,000.
This is so dumb every team does this
Best bench in the league
Bench not good enough to impact the game on the court so they try their best when off 😤
Cheating and still losing.
Completely understand the concerns on how close they are to the game i.e giving players in the corner ample room. But this has to be the first fine levied in the history of the NBA because of a bad pass. Steph turns the ball over and now we’re gonna legislate what color shirt someone can wear? Heat were in white warmups last night with the Celtics wearing white
He had his hand up and was calling for the ball. That isn't basketball, therefore it should be prevented when it literally affects the game. T' them up.
Soft
Mavs deserve this how could Theo Pinson be such a menace smh
The Mavs had bench players wearing tees the same color as the warriors. Then the the bench players were standing up on the sidelines. Pretty much a low rent type of cheating. The refs should call a tech every time they do this.
I thought it was a fine for allowing the teenager to get kidnapped.
It’s really shitty for the fans that bought tickets anywhere near the bench. You literally have to watch the whole game on the video monitor
this the pussiest beef between fanbases for a sub that constantly whines about the league being soft
I wonder when Draymond will get punished
For what?
Mavs worth $3.5B, keep fining them pennies 😂.
Hey everybody, I have a good idea. Let's make a mountain out of a mole hill!!!
I like how the Mavs were doing the same shit in the series with the Suns and everybody here were lauding them as the hero underdogs but now that they play the Warriors they are dirty cheaters.
Don’t worry, the Mavs are in the wrong no matter who they do this shit against.
No one gives a shit lmao. NBA can fix it next season. Keep giving these baby fines and they'll still do it
Seems like it's just because the spoiled fans sitting courtside are complaining because they paid lots of money to see a game and their view is blocked by the players they paid a lot of money to see.