I think it would be cool for a long form interview of him and Rich Eisen reviewing moves that were made. Completely owning failures but highlights like Renfrow Crosby, and Walker.
Hope the Raiders get John Dorsey to be their new GM. Dorsey is great at drafting players. Did it with guys like Mahomes and Kelce when he was on the Chiefs.
The copium angle going around was that Gruden was in charge of 1sts and Mayock landed all the late round hits. No idea if that was ever confirmed by the organization
The Bengals have mostly been doing a version of that for decades and honestly, they've been above average when it comes to the draft (even at QB, pre injury Palmer, Dalton and Burrow isn't a bad stretch). Teams like the Rams and Browns have actually reduced their scouting departments because it was a ton of work (which they can outsource with little return on actually improving pick performance).
Feel like Harbaugh is just playing for Michigan to pay him more. He took a paycut last offseason and then made the playoffs and finally dunked on Ohio State this season. Time to go back to the well and what better way than by intimating that you might leave.
Damn, was really interested in this upcoming draft for Mayock to see if his 1st round reaches were really Gruden picks like the rumors say, or if he really was just that bad.
Mixed bag. I liked him, he had some late round steals and I kinda wanted to see what he could do without Gru. Having said that, bringing in a guy like Dodds would be a slam dunk. This also points to us moving on from Rich and maybe getting a big name HC- Harbaugh being the odds on fave which I would be excited about. So, we are in wait and see mode now, but could be a good thing long term.
Okay with it. He seems like a great guy and I loved him since day 1 but the drafting wasn’t good enough and this likely signals that they’re going to hire a new coach over Bisaccia
I liked him. If this is a stipulation of Harbaugh coming up, no issues with it. If this is just Mark being upset with the roster, I don’t like it. We’ve got holes but this roster has a lot of depth primarily due to mid round picks and low key free agent pickups.
I really wanted to see a draft without Gruden influence. But I'm also totally fine with burning it down if it means we hire competent replacements. So no, I'm not fine.
It's tough. We're getting rid of 2 really good dudes, just nice guys IMO. Rich and Mike seem like the type the players just love, really want to play their hearts out for, but just aren't on the level you need to be to get to the playoffs consistently and win a Super Bowl. Kinda like when you hire a good friend, but he just isn't cut out for the job.
Likely means Bisaccia is out too, but it is what it is, you can't miss that many 1st round picks and keep your job unless you make noise in the playoffs.
I didn't really follow how Bisaccia did to any level of detail. And maybe he's not the reason the Raiders made it into the playoffs. But damn, seems worthy of a HC opportunity for how the team performed given the circumstances. Or did he really screw things up in a way that a casual observer wouldn't notice?
With the roster that they have, I think the Raiders have the most desirable HC/GM vacancy this off-season. Sounds like Bisaccia is loved by the team, but this is the opportunity to go get the most highly touted candidates.
I feel like Bisaccia won't be getting HC attention from other teams, so I am hoping we can keep him as an assistant coach and if it isn't smoke and mirrors bring in Harbaugh. This paired with a good offseason where we maybe pick up a receiver like Adams and fixing up the right side of our line and I think we become superbowl contenders.
I’m not sure their roster is better than Minnesota’s. Minnesota had a lot of very close losses this year, they’re definitely a better team than 8-9. Kirk, JJ, Thielen, Cook, Daniele Hunter, Eric Kemdricks and Barr(if fit) is a pretty good spine.
If we are letting go of Mayock, it likely means we are hoping to a very influential HC that wants final say on roster decisions and their own hand picked GM.
I keep hearing that it was Gruden who was responsible for the Ferrell, Jacobs, Ruggs, Arnette, and Leatherwood picks, with Mayock overseeing later rounds. If that was in fact the case you’d think they’d let him stay around longer and have his “own draft” given the hits they were able to get later in the draft the past few years.
I agree. Optimistic prediction is this is clearing the way for Harbaughs more desirable situation. Pessimist says we’re just fucking around like we always do.
I just want NFL Network draft coverage to be separate from ESPN. If I have to Kiper and any of those other hacks again, I’ll skip viewing entirely and just wait for the updates on here.
This is a great move by the Raiders which of course means I hate it. Hopefully Mark Davis will be stupid again and hire another analyst to be the GM or better yet Adam Schaefter, 3 birds 1 stone kind of thing
Damn I wanted him to get another season. What I’ve heard/read is that Gruden was largely in charge for the first round picks, the ones that mostly suck, and he’s been in charge of the later round picks, which have been largely successful. I wanted to see what he could do with control of the entire draft.
Hard to say if he was good or not because it's common knowledge that Gruden had final say over the personnel. So the question is, was Mayock making some bad picks and Gruden saying they're fine, or was Gruden making the picks and Mayock just having to go along with it because it's not up to him? We would have essentially found out this year had Mayock gotten one more draft.
Love it. I was worried making the playoffs would bring about complacency, but we made it in spite of Mayock. This change is needed, but obviously it has to be someone who can evaluate talent better, work with (and potentially pick out) our new coach, and has a better understanding of contracts and values in this league.
Now on to the coaching staff. I know Bisaccia is a feel good story, but he should not be promoted. Take the feels out of it. He did a job, and now the Raiders need to find a GM and coach for the long haul. Personally, I could do with Carr be jettisoned too. He had so many opportunities against the Bengals and literally threw so many of them away.
Good, he was a colossal failure outside of drafting Max Crosby and Hunter Renfrow. He also saved the Raiders $30M with the A.B. question, “Are you fully in or out”, then cut him before the money automatically kicked in.
Mayock after rejoining the NFL Network
Followed by commentary on the upcoming draft class that includes the phrase, “oily hips” for one out of every four prospects.
I think it would be cool for a long form interview of him and Rich Eisen reviewing moves that were made. Completely owning failures but highlights like Renfrow Crosby, and Walker.
“That was Gruden’s pick”
"Mayock, we're live."
Raiders might be the first team to blow it up after making the playoffs
Imagine if they keep Bisaccia, but hire a new GM. That'd be a weird marriage.
We did it after winning a playoff game.
Jimmy Johnson got fired after winning a Super Bowl and that is blowing it up for The Cowboys because the owner is the GM and president.
Titans did it after 2017, and they even won a playoff game that year. Ended up being a great move for them
Modern day Florida Marlins
Chargers went 14-2 and lost the divisional round and blew it up in the off-season lol
Conspiracy
we needed to. it was a cinderella run. need to move on
Not the first... Seen it first hand.
Didn’t the chargers blow it up after going like 12-4?
Chargers?
2006 Chargers.
1 Carr please
And after making the playoffs despite not one but TWO generational scandals biting the team right in the butt mid-season.
Cowboys
I think we're going to back the Brinks truck up for Harbaugh
In a way after all the Grunden stuff and losing too players to off the field bad choices they had two options.
Broncos did it after 2014 playoffs and won the following Super Bowl 🤷♂️
What a wild ride those 2 were
I assume Mark knows how involved Mayock was in draft picks and was like fuck that
I'm gonna miss the 1000 iq head scratching first round busts!
Now both him and Antonio Brown have something in common
Mr. Both Canned
Mr Back to Cable
And the NFL Network draft analysis improves greatly.
DJ to the Raiders? /s
Quick feet, road grater, phone booth, dancing bear, oily hips and any variation of the tape statement
Idk I think I prefer DJ. Plus Mayock has kinda lost some luster as a draft expert after his questionable at best picks
I really miss Mayock on the NFL network. So selfishly, I love this.
Not that it was ever bad
Watching Leatherwood single-handedly fuck up our playoff game was probably the final nail in the coffin.
I didn't watch this game. What was so bad? Penalties?
I thought Gruden final say in the first couple rounds.
Hope the Raiders get John Dorsey to be their new GM. Dorsey is great at drafting players. Did it with guys like Mahomes and Kelce when he was on the Chiefs.
Knock on wood if you're with me
Every single olineman was called for all least one penalty...
Makes sense for them to start fresh.
Mayock's loss is our gain. Hope he comes back to NFL Network.
I hope he goes back to doing our pre-season games.
Just keep him around but ban him from making 1st round picks.
The copium angle going around was that Gruden was in charge of 1sts and Mayock landed all the late round hits. No idea if that was ever confirmed by the organization
Just draft off PFF big's board and save yourself some money lmao.
That would probably be better for some teams.
Pretty much what the Browns have done.
Somewhere in the distance, Steve Keim feels a tingle
The Bengals have mostly been doing a version of that for decades and honestly, they've been above average when it comes to the draft (even at QB, pre injury Palmer, Dalton and Burrow isn't a bad stretch). Teams like the Rams and Browns have actually reduced their scouting departments because it was a ton of work (which they can outsource with little return on actually improving pick performance).
There nothing to laugh about with same results but less time and money.
That's how the Bengals did it for years
Not a good sign for Pit Boss Rich.
Now fight Antonio Brown you coward.
Mr. Beat a Cracker
Mr. Boxes Coloreds
PLEASE get my guy Mayock back on Draft coverage I miss him
I hope he rejoins NFL Network. Dude was great in draft coverage.
Yes he was
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Plot twist: John
Fangio will very likely be his DC again, too.
Please no
Feel like Harbaugh is just playing for Michigan to pay him more. He took a paycut last offseason and then made the playoffs and finally dunked on Ohio State this season. Time to go back to the well and what better way than by intimating that you might leave.
Doubt it he hired a guy on his Michigan staff already. Doesn’t seem likely
My gut feeling as well
Damn, was really interested in this upcoming draft for Mayock to see if his 1st round reaches were really Gruden picks like the rumors say, or if he really was just that bad.
If he goes back to NFL network you'll be able to sorta see anyways
How ya feeling Raiders fans?
Some hits and some misses. Will miss his personality.
Kinda mixed. Bad in 1st round. Was great after that. Free agency meh.
Mixed bag. I liked him, he had some late round steals and I kinda wanted to see what he could do without Gru. Having said that, bringing in a guy like Dodds would be a slam dunk. This also points to us moving on from Rich and maybe getting a big name HC- Harbaugh being the odds on fave which I would be excited about. So, we are in wait and see mode now, but could be a good thing long term.
Fully depends on who's in next
Okay with it. He seems like a great guy and I loved him since day 1 but the drafting wasn’t good enough and this likely signals that they’re going to hire a new coach over Bisaccia
Mostly untalented team, that won way too many close game.
A little woozy, honestly. It just never stops with this team, I swear to God
I liked him. If this is a stipulation of Harbaugh coming up, no issues with it. If this is just Mark being upset with the roster, I don’t like it. We’ve got holes but this roster has a lot of depth primarily due to mid round picks and low key free agent pickups.
I really wanted to see a draft without Gruden influence. But I'm also totally fine with burning it down if it means we hire competent replacements. So no, I'm not fine.
It's tough. We're getting rid of 2 really good dudes, just nice guys IMO. Rich and Mike seem like the type the players just love, really want to play their hearts out for, but just aren't on the level you need to be to get to the playoffs consistently and win a Super Bowl. Kinda like when you hire a good friend, but he just isn't cut out for the job.
Love it.
The first round of the draft just got less interesting
"Thank god,"
Likely means Bisaccia is out too, but it is what it is, you can't miss that many 1st round picks and keep your job unless you make noise in the playoffs.
I didn't really follow how Bisaccia did to any level of detail. And maybe he's not the reason the Raiders made it into the playoffs. But damn, seems worthy of a HC opportunity for how the team performed given the circumstances. Or did he really screw things up in a way that a casual observer wouldn't notice?
With the roster that they have, I think the Raiders have the most desirable HC/GM vacancy this off-season. Sounds like Bisaccia is loved by the team, but this is the opportunity to go get the most highly touted candidates.
Khaki Man is coming.
I feel like Bisaccia won't be getting HC attention from other teams, so I am hoping we can keep him as an assistant coach and if it isn't smoke and mirrors bring in Harbaugh. This paired with a good offseason where we maybe pick up a receiver like Adams and fixing up the right side of our line and I think we become superbowl contenders.
I’m not sure their roster is better than Minnesota’s. Minnesota had a lot of very close losses this year, they’re definitely a better team than 8-9. Kirk, JJ, Thielen, Cook, Daniele Hunter, Eric Kemdricks and Barr(if fit) is a pretty good spine.
If we are letting go of Mayock, it likely means we are hoping to a very influential HC that wants final say on roster decisions and their own hand picked GM.
This is my read as well. Reeeeeally feels to me like Harbs is coming.
THAT'S LINCOLN RILEY'S MUSIC!!!
I was hoping for a satire flag, but that is what Gruden was...
Back to TV he goes
I feel like Mayock did a good job. The team is much improved from when he got there, and yeah he has some big whiffs...but every single GM has.
I keep hearing that it was Gruden who was responsible for the Ferrell, Jacobs, Ruggs, Arnette, and Leatherwood picks, with Mayock overseeing later rounds. If that was in fact the case you’d think they’d let him stay around longer and have his “own draft” given the hits they were able to get later in the draft the past few years.
I agree. Optimistic prediction is this is clearing the way for Harbaughs more desirable situation. Pessimist says we’re just fucking around like we always do.
Thought he would get 1 year to draft without gruden, got alot of late round gems, will be a what if, if the next gm we hire sucks
i thought he did a good job there. he put some pretty good talent on the field.
Mr Bounced Cracker
LOL
Here comes Harbaugh.
And just like that the joy of making the playoffs is fading. Guess we're rebuilding again?
It wouldn't have to be a full teardown though. QB is already in town and there's some good pieces on offense and defense.
Firing the GM. Must be nice.
The comments in here are so polarizing. I don't know what to think. Was he a good GM? Decent? Awful?
Clearing the path for AB to return.
Who do the raiders go after next, Mel Kiper or Todd McShay?
Mr. Bye Cracker
lol
Back to NFL Network?
Been a wild ride this season.
“GET OFF ME” says Mark Davis!
Somewhere Khalil Mack is smiling.
Harbaugh GM/HC
Please no. I don't wanna have to hire a new college coach this late in the cycle.
They should hire Jon Gruden.
Cool, I've missed his draft and prospect analysis on TV.
Think Mayock will assist a gm, he had a good record with late rounders.
deserved to be fired for hiring desean jackson. ngl
There's no way he's going to go back doing the NFL Draft right? Cuz all his 1st round picks are busts.
See you on Draft Night
Shoulda went with Kiper
I just want NFL Network draft coverage to be separate from ESPN. If I have to Kiper and any of those other hacks again, I’ll skip viewing entirely and just wait for the updates on here.
Fuck I liked Mayock
Should’ve been let go after muffing the Mack trade.
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Michigan fired its university president, who was clashing with Harbaugh.
This is a great move by the Raiders which of course means I hate it. Hopefully Mark Davis will be stupid again and hire another analyst to be the GM or better yet Adam Schaefter, 3 birds 1 stone kind of thing
Todd Bowles please.
Maybe his next role will be getting crushed up and put in soup
Those are....two months out of the year.
Damn I wanted him to get another season. What I’ve heard/read is that Gruden was largely in charge for the first round picks, the ones that mostly suck, and he’s been in charge of the later round picks, which have been largely successful. I wanted to see what he could do with control of the entire draft.
Hmmm, so being a fantasy GM is a lot easier than being a real GM. Who’d have thought that?
Hard to say if he was good or not because it's common knowledge that Gruden had final say over the personnel. So the question is, was Mayock making some bad picks and Gruden saying they're fine, or was Gruden making the picks and Mayock just having to go along with it because it's not up to him? We would have essentially found out this year had Mayock gotten one more draft.
I’d describe his tenure as quicker than fast.
"Resigned"
Damn, I'll miss his odd as fuck draft picks
Wonder if he heads back to NFL Network. He did really solid work there.
Yet Mark Davis's barber remains employed.
New Raiders GM?
dude was a charlatan
I google translated charlatan in the language of MBC, and it came back “cracker”
And yet Baalke is still employed.
Love it. I was worried making the playoffs would bring about complacency, but we made it in spite of Mayock. This change is needed, but obviously it has to be someone who can evaluate talent better, work with (and potentially pick out) our new coach, and has a better understanding of contracts and values in this league.
Most of us were shocked he was hired to start with.
Harbaugh Season Baby
Here comes Harbaugh
Man, I really wanted to see Mayock operate without Gruden overriding him
Now on to the coaching staff. I know Bisaccia is a feel good story, but he should not be promoted. Take the feels out of it. He did a job, and now the Raiders need to find a GM and coach for the long haul. Personally, I could do with Carr be jettisoned too. He had so many opportunities against the Bengals and literally threw so many of them away.
I can see Harbaugh in a Raiders hat
https://i.imgur.com/3GQx330.jpg
If we get Harbaugh? Okay fair enough. If we don’t get Harbaugh? Not sure if I like this move. I’m optimistic overall though.
Small cock Mayock
Hey! Lots of crackers have small dicks. Stop body shaming.
I’m happy that Mark Davis also agrees that he can’t sit through another draft where mayock fumbles the first rounder
Gimme that Derek Carr, please.
this is amusing
Raiders ownership has never ever been what anyone would call hands off…
That is not true at all lmao. Mark Davis is the definition of the of hands off owner.
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Maybe don't hire some slap-dick draft "expert" TV personality as your GM.
Giants?
No thanks
HECK YEAH
I want to see him have another chance. He was always a solid evaluator and had great insights on tv
Not a surprise
Damn. Such a chaotic season for the raiders
YESSSS
Where's Ja? I mean where's Jimmy?
Maybe whoever they are targeting as coach has a GM in mind to come with
Jim Harbaugh wants his own guy.
His first round picks been a big head scratchers
Is there a reason for the firing?
I’ll be interested to learn if it’s true he wasn’t allowed to pick the 1st and 2nd rounders but handled the rest of the draft or not
👀
I was shocked about Spielman because I think he’s good at his job. But Mayock is brutally bad and this is well deserved.
I could see the Bears going after Mayock
Lots of franchises cleaning house.
Bah Gawd, that’s Jim Harbaughs music!
That’s ridiculous! Mayock is awesome!
Not even Maxx can save his job.
Makes sense. Harbaugh wants to choose his GM like Shanahan & Lynch
He has led the league in “what the fuck?” Picks
Please come to Minnesota as the VP of player personnel.
Raiders make playoffs and the fans get a full rebuild.
Good, he was a colossal failure outside of drafting Max Crosby and Hunter Renfrow. He also saved the Raiders $30M with the A.B. question, “Are you fully in or out”, then cut him before the money automatically kicked in.
Take notes, Dolphins.