[Hilliard] "I have been informed by the NFL that I tested positive for a banned diuretic - Spironolactone (Canrenone). After investigation, it became clear that I mistakenly took my partner's prescription medication instead of my own anti-inflammatory prescription."
I hate seeing a pill look completely different from the one I usually take and still ingesting it into my body and it just happens to be a banned substance. What shit luck
As someone who takes spironolactone, you can't mistake it for something else. It smells so bad, I've never encountered a pill that smelled like anything, but spironolactone is distinctively pungent.
Same. I’m on spiro as a trans woman and was confused why a football player would take it lol. Granted, my dose is also super high since it’s technically an off-label use.
If you go to the skincare subreddit, you’ll also see tons of women take it for hormonal acne, especially if it’s cystic. Of all the banned substances, this one and stimulants are probably the most likely to be taken by a young woman.
Just an oopsie-doodle on his part, nbd. I mean who checks the bottle before taking medication? Especially when your partner's meds are next to yours right? For an NFL player whose career could be on the line if they test positive for banned substances? Makes sense.
Huh. I take spironolactone for my skin. It’s completely cleared up any acne and I’ve been taking it daily for a couple of years. I had no idea it masked PEDs.
I'm a Paramedic and once I went on a woman who instead of taking her prescribed meds accidentally took her dog's flea/tick preventative so yes, people are that stupid.
Anyone else feel like it’s kinda funny whenever the league makes a big show out of guys using PEDs? Anyone who knows anything about football knows that probably almost every non-QB player in the league is using some form of steroids
I've never understood how the league even decided who gets banned, cuz the entire fucking league is using. Arnold was 6'1 230 on stage. Donald is 6'1 285 with abs. The people going against Donald's roided up ass aren't say "well shucks it sucks that he's cheating and we're not"
It literally starts in 9th grade here in Arkansas. One school (Junction City) at one point the coaches literally handed out oral steroids. Told the kids they were 'vitamins'.
Yup... and sometimes it's people you wouldn't expect. For example, the 49ers' LONG SNAPPER in 2018 got busted for PED's.... Funny enough, Justin Hilliard was with the 49ers in 2021 before he got cut after preseason. I think he had shoulder issues in college, and spent little playing time with the Giants, I think. I see why he's taking it to get an edge to get more playing time.
Glad he's completed the investigation of himself. Now the team and the NFL can just ask for his report and call it a day. Really nice of him to save them some time.
They are for high blood pressure right? Why do you think he would be taking them or what edge would they provide? I am really curious and you probably have a better idea then I do.
He's claiming this was Canrenone not even spironolactone. Canrenone is not even used in North America.... it's the active metabolite of spironolactone though and has more antimineralocorticoid effect ( more diuretic effect) and less antiandrogen effect than spironolactone. Good as a doping masking agent with less of the gynecomastia side effect compared to spironolactone.
Actually have more respect for the guys who just own up to it and admit it and say it was a mistake to do so than the guys who make up excuses like this.
Spironolactone is technically a blood pressure pill (definitely not a first line agent for hypertension) but most frequently used for treatment in two other main uses: heart failure or hirsutism (excessive hair growth normally in male distribution areas, think chin or mustache) in females . Also can be used to treat acne as well or as a diuretic, but there tend to be other more commonly prescribed diuretics.
i’ve never, and no one I know has ever taken the wrong pill in my life, yet all these pro athletes whose job depends on not letting that rare thing happen, and it happens all the time for them. Weird.
My MIL took my FIL’s painkiller by accident because it was on the counter (out of the bottle) and thought she had hers there. Then she drank and got fucked up because she didn’t know it wasn’t the diabetes pill.
If he "accidentally" took spironolactone, I have to question his sense of smell. The stuff smells like skunk. (It's so bad that drug manufacturers only use disposable containers when making the pills, and often add something to mask the odor.)
"Mistakenly" Sure is convenient that some close to him had a prescription for something on the banned substance list. I'm sorry if it was job on the line I'd be extremely careful when taking any kind of medication. Also I'm sure you'd notice a difference right away after taking the wrong pill. Why not inform the league of your mistake?
It is certainly your right to believe that he accidentally took his partner's prescription drugs which also just happened to be a type of masking agent for PEDs.
Don't you hate it when you accidentally take someone else's prescription medication that has their name on it, with the name of the medication on the label in giant bold black letters along with the medications information?
Spironolactone. its a potassium sparing diuretic. i take it becasue Im hypokalemic. I don't understand how its a banned substance and it is in no way shape or form performance enhancing.
God I just hate when I take my partners meds that just so happen to be a masking agent.
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Haha, why do players even say anything? Just serve your suspension without saying anything. Ultimately, the fans don't care about this shit.
I hate seeing a pill look completely different from the one I usually take and still ingesting it into my body and it just happens to be a banned substance. What shit luck
Yeah, I only take my partner's meds because they get me fuckin high.
Hey it happens all the time. Remember when Peyton Manning's wife ordered HGH and it got Peyton in trouble? Wives! I'll tell ya.
As someone who takes spironolactone, you can't mistake it for something else. It smells so bad, I've never encountered a pill that smelled like anything, but spironolactone is distinctively pungent.
Bro why is this the go to explanation? Who the hell takes their gf’s meds
Same! I've done it like 3 times this week! Errr so annoying.
Didn’t Manning say the same thing when he popped for HGH? Lmao
Every single time!!!
The peyton manning
Man, the Twitter comments section is full of dudes simping HARD for this guy. The amount of excuses is insane.
The excuse worked for Peyton lol
My pharmacist fiancée says that a lot of women take this for acne reasons. And that this is actually very plausible lol
"in my defense, when I grabbed for the pills I was so jacked on steroids I could hardly see. Honest mistake."
Lmao eyelid muscles too STRONK.
I only know that as a HRT drug so that threw me off for a minute lol
Yeah it’s a potassium sparing diuretic, formulated to block aldosterone, and it has secondary use of HRT, off label use for acne, stuff like that.
Diuretics, simlarily to this, are used to flush other PEDs out of the system faster
good ole testosterone blocker.
Shit yeah I used to be on that for kidney stuff, guess my super-realistic dreams of getting into the NFL is over.
Same. I’m on spiro as a trans woman and was confused why a football player would take it lol. Granted, my dose is also super high since it’s technically an off-label use.
I just started taking it the other day and my first thought was he’s transitioning lmao
Same. Then got excited that there was a pro athlete openly dating a trans women. Didn't realize it was also used for high blood pressure
My Dog is on it for her heart....
Routinely used in heart failure
If you go to the skincare subreddit, you’ll also see tons of women take it for hormonal acne, especially if it’s cystic. Of all the banned substances, this one and stimulants are probably the most likely to be taken by a young woman.
Just once I want the statement to be something like "lol got me fam"
Waiting to see the league hand out a bigger punishment to him than Watson.
There’s a non zero chance that Watson faces a lesser punishment for assaulting 26 women than Brady got for the existence of the ideal gas law
Isn't there an actual framework for PED suspensions though? Not just like, Goodell spins a wheel and picks a number, like with sexual assault.
Rumor has it they’re already planning on suspending Brady for 4 games for this
If it's proved that Watson assaulted those women then the league won't have much to do with it.
Just taking drugs without looking. Woopsie
You don't just grab whatever pills look right when you're taking your meds?
Had a patient that called me once and said “I found a pill under my stove and took it, but didn’t see what it looked like, what should I do?”
Just an oopsie-doodle on his part, nbd. I mean who checks the bottle before taking medication? Especially when your partner's meds are next to yours right? For an NFL player whose career could be on the line if they test positive for banned substances? Makes sense.
Oh really? Yeah yeah yeah
That hospitality bowl sucked
I've done that, sort of, I've taken pills twice because for the life of me I didn't know if I've already taken them
Huh. I take spironolactone for my skin. It’s completely cleared up any acne and I’ve been taking it daily for a couple of years. I had no idea it masked PEDs.
You're free to juice up now mate
It also suppresses testosterone so trans women can transition.
What happens if a player legitimately needs something like that?
Yet….
Have you grown balls or a penis yet?
Before I reach for my pills, I close my eyes. And then before I slam em back, I remove my eyes entirely.
It makes the next couple of hours way more exciting.
sus
He’s gotta be a big André Onana fan
I'm a Paramedic and once I went on a woman who instead of taking her prescribed meds accidentally took her dog's flea/tick preventative so yes, people are that stupid.
My Prozac is also beef flavored, easy mistake to make!
She was stupid, but she was also flea and tick free right?
hilliard was in my class in high school. never expected this to be the first real headline he made in the nfl
One time we chugged a solo cup of gin together that was tough on my teenage liver
Go Bombers
Lying ass
Ah the Manning Defense. A classic.
Ashley Manning’s all natty
Not the case here because the NFL 100% had Manning’s back.
Bro I hate when I accidentally take my girls DBOL and I'm in the gym lifting the entire structure 😭 could happen to anyone
Anyone else feel like it’s kinda funny whenever the league makes a big show out of guys using PEDs? Anyone who knows anything about football knows that probably almost every non-QB player in the league is using some form of steroids
It’s like underage drinking. We all know it’s common. Just don’t be egregious or make anything too obvious and nobody cares.
The league never makes a big show out of it.
I've never understood how the league even decided who gets banned, cuz the entire fucking league is using. Arnold was 6'1 230 on stage. Donald is 6'1 285 with abs. The people going against Donald's roided up ass aren't say "well shucks it sucks that he's cheating and we're not"
It literally starts in 9th grade here in Arkansas. One school (Junction City) at one point the coaches literally handed out oral steroids. Told the kids they were 'vitamins'.
Yup... and sometimes it's people you wouldn't expect. For example, the 49ers' LONG SNAPPER in 2018 got busted for PED's.... Funny enough, Justin Hilliard was with the 49ers in 2021 before he got cut after preseason. I think he had shoulder issues in college, and spent little playing time with the Giants, I think. I see why he's taking it to get an edge to get more playing time.
It’s really the worst kept secret in sports.
Im not sure about steroids, but I am betting most are running HGH. As they should too considering it’s for recovery, not muscle building.
Why not QBs too? I don’t know shit
Their testing is a joke and they only test from in camp to the end of the season so anyone with a brain can cycle before camp starts.
Cheating is allowed. Getting caught isn't.
Imagine if you really did take your partners meds by mistake. Nobody would believe you, what else would you say? Lol that would blow
Cranberry juice. It’s a natural diuretic. What was he, on his period?
Now see, this isn’t quite a guy you can’t hit, but it’s almost a guy you can’t hit.
These lies are so fucking bad
seems to me like this is a pretty clear way to avoid heavy suspensions for PED use:
That sounds plausible, but also need to remember that there are two key things in the NFL PED policy when it comes to these statements:
Who?
I have no idea who this guy is.
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Agreed
[Hilliard] The good news in all of this is that my vagina is no longer abnormally and painfully dry. My clam is now moister than an oyster. 🙏
These excuses get worse and worse everytime an athlete gets caught cheating.
Better than "I ate a pork burrito that must have been made from uncastrated wild boar meat". Plenty of people believed that shit too
Cushing brain tumor is both tragic and non existent
We had a player in the NRL here in Australia claim that he didn't wash his blender after his roommate used it and the residue made him test positive
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I can't believe you'd cheat on to hide your PEDs like that. Jeeze.
That's why I use a pill organizer lmao
Ahhh the Peyton Manning defense
Glad he's completed the investigation of himself. Now the team and the NFL can just ask for his report and call it a day. Really nice of him to save them some time.
Weird. I know exactly when and why I take my wife’s meds.
Mistimed your cycle eh?
I’m gonna be real, there’s no way. This pill has an absolute noticeable smell to it.
Yup.
Perhaps he, like me, is an anosmiac.
I take spironolactone for my heart failure. It's a very unique looking pill. No way it was a mistake.
They are for high blood pressure right? Why do you think he would be taking them or what edge would they provide? I am really curious and you probably have a better idea then I do.
He's claiming this was Canrenone not even spironolactone. Canrenone is not even used in North America.... it's the active metabolite of spironolactone though and has more antimineralocorticoid effect ( more diuretic effect) and less antiandrogen effect than spironolactone. Good as a doping masking agent with less of the gynecomastia side effect compared to spironolactone.
It comes in different shapes and colors depending on dosage.
I’m a trans woman who takes spironolactone as a testosterone blocker lol. Didn’t think I’d see it make the news for a PED suspension today.
Yeah this definitely made me do a double take, lmao
I didn't even know it did other shit lmao. I'm a simple trans woman, I take my spiro and I don't ask questions
Yeah, I accidentally used my girlfriends tampons too what a silly mistake
I love this excuse. Have never come remotely close to taking my partner’s pills and I’m not subject to drug testing.
I didn't even know he was a Giant
How tf you accidentally take someone else’s meds
lol ok
do sorry to hear his partner has liver failure/heart failure.
It's also used to treat acne.
PEDs is just a two game suspension now, eh?
It's a masking agent, not a PED itself. That gets you two games.
Sure, buddy. Whatever you say!
Mmhmm.
Lol what bullshit. I’ve never mistakenly taken someone else’s medicine, it’s not hard.
Yeah okay.
Sure you did.
Actually have more respect for the guys who just own up to it and admit it and say it was a mistake to do so than the guys who make up excuses like this.
lmao who the fuck comes up with excuses like this
yeah, suspend his girlfriend instead!
Almost everyone who gets caught says this.
Spironolactone is technically a blood pressure pill (definitely not a first line agent for hypertension) but most frequently used for treatment in two other main uses: heart failure or hirsutism (excessive hair growth normally in male distribution areas, think chin or mustache) in females . Also can be used to treat acne as well or as a diuretic, but there tend to be other more commonly prescribed diuretics.
i’ve never, and no one I know has ever taken the wrong pill in my life, yet all these pro athletes whose job depends on not letting that rare thing happen, and it happens all the time for them. Weird.
I don’t know about his anti-inflammatory, but spironolactone can be pungent. Like from the instant I open the bottle.
I wonder why mine doesn’t stink
My MIL took my FIL’s painkiller by accident because it was on the counter (out of the bottle) and thought she had hers there. Then she drank and got fucked up because she didn’t know it wasn’t the diabetes pill.
If he "accidentally" took spironolactone, I have to question his sense of smell. The stuff smells like skunk. (It's so bad that drug manufacturers only use disposable containers when making the pills, and often add something to mask the odor.)
Spironolactone is a banned drug? Its like the opposite of a performance enhancing drug, it blocks testosterone.
masking agent
"Mistakenly" Sure is convenient that some close to him had a prescription for something on the banned substance list. I'm sorry if it was job on the line I'd be extremely careful when taking any kind of medication. Also I'm sure you'd notice a difference right away after taking the wrong pill. Why not inform the league of your mistake?
His partner is Peyton Manning’s wife.
👍 you good man.
one can not read sarcasm. it‘s a lesson we all had to learn on reddit. sorry pal
Looks like it's for heart failure?
Diuretic. Makes you pee. Muddles urine samples. Masks other drug usage.
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It is certainly your right to believe that he accidentally took his partner's prescription drugs which also just happened to be a type of masking agent for PEDs.
Dude owned it. Respect.
Dude just used the manning defense what do you mean he owned it lol
He absolutely did not own it.
Its a testosterone blocker. He aint owning anything.
This is a common female acne medication right? Innocent until proven guilty and it is quite possible it happened on accident.
That's the biggest fucking lie. Outside of more obvious differences, spironolactone has a uniquely strong odor of mint.
Don't you hate it when you accidentally take someone else's prescription medication that has their name on it, with the name of the medication on the label in giant bold black letters along with the medications information?
Sure sure.
time to just stop testing for PEDs in football. no one cares
So he’s off the hook right? Honest mistake lol
The Peyton defense. Classic.
I am suspicious
If they're trans they should just say they're trans...
Ok dude. You get to use this excuse once. ONCE.
Spironolactone. its a potassium sparing diuretic. i take it becasue Im hypokalemic. I don't understand how its a banned substance and it is in no way shape or form performance enhancing.
Because it’s used to mask the use of PEDs. Hence why it’s a banned substance.
Ahh the old "I somehow didn't notice I was taking the wrong drug" excuse.