[RG3] Tua will make a BIG LEAP this year because the @MiamiDolphins set him up for success better than any other young QB. Surrounded by playmakers like Tyreek, Jaylen Waddle, Cedrick Wilson, and Mike Gesicki, IMPROVED PROTECTION and a stable of running backs to show the NFL who he is.
They still need some recent draft picks on the right side of the oline to hit or they could still have some major pass blocking issues. I think that could be a viable excuse this season too
We have a lot of ammo in next years draft to move up for a QB or possibly trade for a veteran like the Broncos did. At a minimum there will be a QB competition next year if Tua doesn’t ball out this year.
Also gotta keep in mind that his o line is still not that impressive. They got Tyreek Hill and they got Terron Armstead, but they’ve still got 4 not great o line positions. Just fixing LT won’t fix all their problems i.e. Raiders O line. We’ll see tho. I’d argue he’s already been pretty decent.
I mean they have competed for a wc with Tua injured a lot of the time and without those additions. So wc is minimum requirement unless the defense just stops working or they get crazy injuries.
[TB12] Zach Wilson will make a BIG LEAP this year because the @NYJets set him up for success better than any other young QB. Surrounded by playmakers like Garret Wilson, Elijah Moore, CJ Uzomah and Tyler Conklin, IMPROVED PROTECTION and a stable of running backs to show the NFL who he is.
The Bengals after seeing the offensive line cost them a SB went big on that in Free Agency, their future is Joey B, and they need to protect the franchise face. Same goes for every smartly run FO, if you have a franchise QB you protect them with a solid offensive line or you won't have one for long.
I hope he proves me wrong but I think he is a bust. Too small, too fragile, and a weak arm. Also while not a statue he lacks the kind of mobility that allowed similarly small Russell Wilson to succeed. Drew Brees was a mega exception and to use him as an example isn't realistic. I'm betting between injuries and ineffectiveness that Bridgewater starts at least 7 games.
While we’re making confessions I feel like Fields is just not gonna be good. Great deep ball, athletic, can’t make a quick throw/read for the life of him, plays hero ball too much, longer throwing motion.
Injuries, sure. Ineffectiveness? I’m no Tua truther at all but man if he gets benched for Bridgewater that would surprise me. Bridgewater is just boring as shit and is garbage.
You're 100% right. Teddy Bridgewater was a top 15 QB in almost every advanced metric last year with about the same amount of talent Tua had (except a much better line). Bridgewater will start 7+ games for sure
I think more than tua, the dolphins are set up for success shudders they have 2 first rounders next year and they can either use them to trade up for a new qb or build a better team. It’s make or break this season
I’m a Pats fan, but I actually do think Tua should improve. There may be concerns about his deep ball, but taking advantage of speed isn’t limited to deep throws. With a quick release and short accuracy there is plenty of room to get big gains through yac with RPOs, outside zone play action etc
This should be the playbook for every team’s first 2 season with a new, young QB. If he can’t cut it this year, you move on instead of crossing your fingers for 5 years.
Week 1 is going to be annoying. Miami opens against the Patriots who presently have a very pedestrian secondary and an offense with basically no experienced offensive coaches. Miami will look good all day and everyone will say Tua is solved.
Eh personally I think Hurts has been set up even better. AJ Brown + Devonta Smith + Goedert as passing weapons with a solid RB group and best o-line in the league.
No he won't but I'd love to see why people think he would. He can barely see over his line, he lobs the ball up more than he accurately passes and he isn't very fast to escape. He's going to do poorly but he's a player who is loved because of his back story.
I think most people who aren't miserable in their own lives, are rooting for Tua. He did better than most would with that Miami offensive line last year and I think he most definitely will improve this season, at least statistically. But it definitely is a make or break season for him in Miami. That teams come together fast and probably doesn't want to wait another year developing Tua if he is still inconsistent
If all you need to be a good QB in the NFL are good playmakers, good protection, and good running backs, and good coaching, chances are that you are probably not a good QB; you are the weakest link in the chain.
with everything improved around him there's going to be big leaps. either he has a big leap in performance, or he can make a big leap geographically to another team.
Miami is going to keep pretending they didn't mess up until they end the year one game under 500. Even then, they'll probably insist he needs just one more year with these guys.
Continues to baffle me that they looked at Herbert who seems like he was built in a lab to be a NFL QB and decided to opt for Tua who looks like he’s in pain throwing a football and had the benefit of a ridiculous offensive roster that would would’ve made any QB in College look good idk
I will say that not having the worse o-line in the NFL might help him but idk im not a doctor
What about not having the worst running game too?
so now this is it? No excuses? What if he doesn't take the next step? He done?
If he's not at least on Jimmy Garoppolo's level around QB 17-18 his days as the starting QB of the Dolphins are likely over.
they have two first round picks next year so, he better show up
Dolphins fans have for the most part made an absurd amount of excuses for him til this point but it really is put up or shut up time.
Some aspect of the team will be injured or underperform and that will be the excuse
Go ask this on the dolphins sub, you’ll find a mine full of salt and will probably get banned. They appear to fully understand the issue. 🤷🏻♂️
They still need some recent draft picks on the right side of the oline to hit or they could still have some major pass blocking issues. I think that could be a viable excuse this season too
Pretty much yeah, if Tua does not make a massive leap this season he is not the guy
We have a lot of ammo in next years draft to move up for a QB or possibly trade for a veteran like the Broncos did. At a minimum there will be a QB competition next year if Tua doesn’t ball out this year.
If he doesn’t take the next step, the narrative next year will be Tua taking a step forward after a lukewarm first year in a new system.
Also gotta keep in mind that his o line is still not that impressive. They got Tyreek Hill and they got Terron Armstead, but they’ve still got 4 not great o line positions. Just fixing LT won’t fix all their problems i.e. Raiders O line. We’ll see tho. I’d argue he’s already been pretty decent.
First year head coach excuses will be bountiful.
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Only I may dance.
Its Year 3. The big one. If there isn't significant improvement, 'Phins are in trouble.
I mean they have competed for a wc with Tua injured a lot of the time and without those additions. So wc is minimum requirement unless the defense just stops working or they get crazy injuries.
We have 2 first round picks in the next draft. We have contingencies in place in case Tua doesn't work out.
Threw Cedric Wilson in there like we wouldnt notice
Cedric Wilson can play QB if Tua don't work out look at this dime
Cedric Wilson’s agent paid RG3 a cool $60 to tweet this tweet
What’s with the Ced hate? He was one of the better pure slot receivers in the league last year as a 4th, sometimes 5th option on the Cowboys.
Cedric is a really fun wr3
Cedrick can ball, casual
Cedric the Entertainer would be nice too.
[TB12] Zach Wilson will make a BIG LEAP this year because the @NYJets set him up for success better than any other young QB. Surrounded by playmakers like Garret Wilson, Elijah Moore, CJ Uzomah and Tyler Conklin, IMPROVED PROTECTION and a stable of running backs to show the NFL who he is.
He’s also in the best shape of his life. Really getting to practice early too.
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Let's be realistic here. Tom Brady wouldn't say something that nice about the Jets.
Cedrick Wilson really is the prefect number 3/4 WR to have on your team & also just a guy to safely make sure you get your punt returns fair caught
And waddle won't have to keep playing slot, which is a huge improvement. Wilson is one of the better FA adds.
Burrow, Hurts, maybe Herbert are better set up, but I do think the Dolphins are trying to really set up Tua well.
The Bengals after seeing the offensive line cost them a SB went big on that in Free Agency, their future is Joey B, and they need to protect the franchise face. Same goes for every smartly run FO, if you have a franchise QB you protect them with a solid offensive line or you won't have one for long.
I think those are hot takes. The dolphins on paper are better than maybe all three of those teams offensively
I think he’ll be somewhere in the middle. He’s a smart accurate passer. I think the OL improvements will help more than the other acquisitions
A “stable of running backs.” Is that a common phrase that I’ve never heard before? Sounds like he’s comparing running backs to horses lol.
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I hope he proves me wrong but I think he is a bust. Too small, too fragile, and a weak arm. Also while not a statue he lacks the kind of mobility that allowed similarly small Russell Wilson to succeed. Drew Brees was a mega exception and to use him as an example isn't realistic. I'm betting between injuries and ineffectiveness that Bridgewater starts at least 7 games.
While we’re making confessions I feel like Fields is just not gonna be good. Great deep ball, athletic, can’t make a quick throw/read for the life of him, plays hero ball too much, longer throwing motion.
Doug Flutie was small for a QB, still managed to be a good starter except in Buffalo where the team thought Rob Johnson was somehow a better starter.
Yeah super honesty time I think Daniel Jones might not be the guy either. Still fastest man alive tho.
Not sure how you watch Tua put up average numbers last year with all things considered and think Bridgewater starts because of ineffectiveness.
Injuries, sure. Ineffectiveness? I’m no Tua truther at all but man if he gets benched for Bridgewater that would surprise me. Bridgewater is just boring as shit and is garbage.
Tua and Teddy are very similar. I don't think they'd really gain anything by going to Teddy even if Tua is "ineffective"
You're 100% right. Teddy Bridgewater was a top 15 QB in almost every advanced metric last year with about the same amount of talent Tua had (except a much better line). Bridgewater will start 7+ games for sure
I think more than tua, the dolphins are set up for success shudders they have 2 first rounders next year and they can either use them to trade up for a new qb or build a better team. It’s make or break this season
They will use the picks to improve the team around Brady.
I’m a Pats fan, but I actually do think Tua should improve. There may be concerns about his deep ball, but taking advantage of speed isn’t limited to deep throws. With a quick release and short accuracy there is plenty of room to get big gains through yac with RPOs, outside zone play action etc
Right but everyone will play against his strengths and drop way less deep against him, without that threat you remove a lot to defend
This should be the playbook for every team’s first 2 season with a new, young QB. If he can’t cut it this year, you move on instead of crossing your fingers for 5 years.
I wish he’d have a great year but I know it’s gonna be shit again.
Week 1 is going to be annoying. Miami opens against the Patriots who presently have a very pedestrian secondary and an offense with basically no experienced offensive coaches. Miami will look good all day and everyone will say Tua is solved.
Belichick makes good secondaries out of literally nothing though I wouldn’t be surprised if they shut him down, the only problem is can they score
Somehow the prospect of Jack Jones vs Tyreek Hill or whatever it ends up being doesn’t excite me.
Sign me up!
Who is he?
I appreciate all caps in parts of a single sentence, otherwise I wouldn't know which parts are important.
Eh personally I think Hurts has been set up even better. AJ Brown + Devonta Smith + Goedert as passing weapons with a solid RB group and best o-line in the league.
4,001 yards, 25-9 TD:INT season incoming
Gesicki and Wilson both pretty mid. I agree Tua is in a much better situation compared to last year tho.
Gesicki is mid as a TE because he can't block for shit, but he's a very good pass catching TE
I won't stand for wilson slander
I wouldn’t really call Gesicki mid and Wilson is pretty decent as a #4
He get a left arm transplant?
No he won't but I'd love to see why people think he would. He can barely see over his line, he lobs the ball up more than he accurately passes and he isn't very fast to escape. He's going to do poorly but he's a player who is loved because of his back story.
I think most people who aren't miserable in their own lives, are rooting for Tua. He did better than most would with that Miami offensive line last year and I think he most definitely will improve this season, at least statistically. But it definitely is a make or break season for him in Miami. That teams come together fast and probably doesn't want to wait another year developing Tua if he is still inconsistent
Or you know he will just be Tua… 5’11”, unathletic, injury prone and not enough leader to even be a captain
Lol. How is he injury prone? Must be a bust since he’s not a captain. Dumbest shit I’ve ever read.
If you need everything around you to be elite to be good maybe you already showed the NFL who you are.
In this league setting a QB up for success also means giving them zero excuses for failure. Tua MUST succeed, maybe he will, honestly doubt it.
Stopped reading at “Accuracy: nothing amazing”. Not sure if you actually watch football but his accuracy is elite.
lol wtf bad pocket awareness. You literally watched none of his games. He had the lowest sack rate total vs the most pressure faced in the nfl
Solid analysis. Not sure what his defenders are seeing. It's like watching an offense stuck in molasses.
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If all you need to be a good QB in the NFL are good playmakers, good protection, and good running backs, and good coaching, chances are that you are probably not a good QB; you are the weakest link in the chain.
And an offensive minded coach.
There are a lot of good knocks to the Bears imo, but this isn’t one of them.
And when he continues to be largely mediocre we will hear this same exact thing next offseason
I got to see it to believe it
Any other young QB hasn't been set up for success like the Dolphins have Tua?
Pain
I don’t think Tua becomes a top 10 QB or anything but I think he will def be in the mid tier range with these new additions
Agreed, If he's not successful it's a tua problem now.
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This is the ultimate boom or bust situation at Qb this year.
Idk, our General Mills has Cooks and……uh….
He should take a big leap.
If tua doesn’t take a big leap with all the added improvements that’ll be disappointing.
So buy Puts on Tua
He’ll be just good enough to not know if he is good or bad again
with everything improved around him there's going to be big leaps. either he has a big leap in performance, or he can make a big leap geographically to another team.
They don’t make the Playoffs
He will mediocre no matter who the coach is.
He had Waddle and Gesicki last year? Tyreek sure yup. But Cedrick Wilson is the game changer here?
Make or break year for Tua.
Miami is going to keep pretending they didn't mess up until they end the year one game under 500. Even then, they'll probably insist he needs just one more year with these guys.
MVP? idk maybe
Maybe if he has a great year and 6-8 other qbs get injured
Are we just completely ignoring the fact that the Jaguars reset the WR market for Lawrence
Yes becuase the guys they reset the market with are zay jones and christan kirk lol
The Kirk contract isn’t bad. People are blowing it out of proportion.
Continues to baffle me that they looked at Herbert who seems like he was built in a lab to be a NFL QB and decided to opt for Tua who looks like he’s in pain throwing a football and had the benefit of a ridiculous offensive roster that would would’ve made any QB in College look good idk