The fact that Chandler was the ONLY ONE able to get out when Charles had his back and fought through is so impressive, especially after watching how Charles submitted Dustin and Justin.
After seeing Olivera dispose of Dustin and Gaethje when he took their back, this is all the more impressive. I hope we get to see these two rematch at some point
Chandler is always doing the exact thing fight fans want to see. Dude is on your back? Get up and then fucking body slam him. I swear I always want to see this as soon as someone backpacks
Me too. But also when someone has your back and slam on them, you basically are throwing a Hail Mary bc if they don’t get off from the slam they have even more advantage and also were able to tighten the choke more
It’s a nice move, but depending on your stamina it can gas you out. Also leaves the potential in the slam of leaving just enough space for the choke to actually get in tighter/deeper if your opponent is expecting it. Some guys I’ve rolled with have such great body control that they’re able to almost roll with the momentum and have you end up with me belly down (to clarify I was not trying to slam them, just as I somewhat got up they kind of swung me backwards but to the side)
He's absolutely at the top of the must-see list. I thought he had no business with the title shot but what the hell do I know. Both he and Oliviera would have made excellent champs.
Me too. I’m a Dan Hooker fan so was gutted to see him lose again but after these last few fights I’m 100% a Chandler fan. Fun fighter and seems like a decent dude too.
He’s an amazing wrestler and trains with some of the best in MMA, has for years. He’s underrated even with how much hype he has currently. The dude was steamrolling Bellator for years before coming to the UFC.
He then went into Charles' guard and beat him up there for the rest of the round. Chandler's strength, explosiveness and awareness on the ground makes him virtually impossible to submit.
i mean its only 2 fights ago and just over 1 year. i get it people don't know bout chandlers grappling but he's a damn good grappler and head and shoulders above justin and dustin.
Yeah, maybe not in terms of actual skills acquired but I feel like his confidence in big moments has obviously gone up which plays a factor at this level
I think this will get him in trouble a lot but at the same time get him some impressive wins like Michael Pereira. Dude has lots of losses but I still tune in to watch him submit some guy with twister while doing a backflip
This dude is the most explosive 155er ever. Change my mind. That kick on tony, escaping a back packed olives, right hand vs pitbull. So clean and fire.
chandler has serious power. And I think it helps that his neck is very short because of his build. It looks nearly impossible to choke him out. The best chance charles had is tko him and he made it. Both mans are crazy
as someone who's seen pre ufc chandler , to say i was shocked when he actually shot a TD on tony instead of striking a loosing battle would be an understatement! so maybe he's willing to turn of his showman caveman brain off.
This is the best post I've seen since joining this sub. OP is IMHO correct, after watching olivera's wake of destruction, seeing that Chandler can defend against that crazy good ju jitsu has me questioning that if Chandler had fought a more tactful, measured fight (rather than swinging for the fences, which is admittedly awesome to watch) that he could've gone further than he did w Charles. I'm hoping there's a rematch in the future
would it be wrong to think that chandler is better than gaethje? i feel like he just didn’t approach their fight looking for a win… does that make sense or am i being delusional
Oliveira beat Dustin with relative ease and made Justin look like an amateur. It was not the longest, but I think this was the most competitive of his title fights.
Why is this even disputed. Downvote me all you want. I love Tony but the Dan Hooker and Bobby Green wins alone are more impressive than the Tony win and getting dropped in the process
He did what paul felder did, he fought on the ground, showing charlie olives hes not afraid of his ground game meanwhile justin and dustin avoided it at all costs, showing charlie olives they are afraid boosting his confidence and forcing the sub strat.
Chandler smashes people, if only he had a little stronger of a chin but that shot put out Justin too. Only one of the three that wasn’t dazed by Charles standup was Dustin.
Chandler is strong AF and a great wrestler. It was his power n explosiveness that abled him to escape but it doesnt matter… 🫒 is too damn good. If Islam cant neutralize him noone will
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is how important the hip control is in these types of clips. Notice chandler in the scramble is always trying to flatten Charles hips. Notice how when chandler gets out he can't dove in because Charles floats his hips off the mat. The reason for this and why wrestlers are super dangerous to BJJ players, they need their hips to secure position to perform the sub. Chandler flattened and stretched Charles back control so he would only have to fight the hand and to make room to escape. Similarly Charles knows if chandler dives in his guard and his hips are flat it's game over.
Everybody saw this fight go back and forth and thought they were two decent guys waiting to be beaten by justin and dustin. Truth is, chandler was a nightmare match up for olivera
Between Chandler and Olivera, who do you guys think would give Khabib a tougher time? I think both would do substantially better than Justin and Dustin, but what do I know🤷♂️
He's an inspiration. He doesn't quit, he goes 100%, and he was still able to hold off the post-knockout followups against Tony, and he adopts kids. Seems like a great dude.
Chandler is great at reversals on the ground. He's done the 2 on 1 wrist control to roll out of back mount and into top position a lot in his career. He's got a pretty sick reversal for a crucifix too. Think he did it against Benson Henderson, off the top of my head
After seeing Olivera dispose of Dustin and Gaethje when he took their back, this is all the more impressive. I hope we get to see these two rematch at some point
Probably will
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Chandler is always doing the exact thing fight fans want to see. Dude is on your back? Get up and then fucking body slam him. I swear I always want to see this as soon as someone backpacks
Imagine if he did a back flip with a dude on his back lmao instant HOF
Yeah it’s always fun to watch, but problem is when the slam doesn’t work out you’re put on an even worse position.
Also why he’s so damn entertaining for casuals like me. He’s like watching a real life gladiator
Me too. But also when someone has your back and slam on them, you basically are throwing a Hail Mary bc if they don’t get off from the slam they have even more advantage and also were able to tighten the choke more
Saw a fight fighter slammed forward twice instead of backward did knocked out the guy from the back.
It’s a nice move, but depending on your stamina it can gas you out. Also leaves the potential in the slam of leaving just enough space for the choke to actually get in tighter/deeper if your opponent is expecting it. Some guys I’ve rolled with have such great body control that they’re able to almost roll with the momentum and have you end up with me belly down (to clarify I was not trying to slam them, just as I somewhat got up they kind of swung me backwards but to the side)
Chandler is one of the most explosive fighters I’ve ever seen. He trains plyometrics non-stop.
When he shot and tossed Tony Feeturson in the first round, that was one of the most explosive take downs I’ve ever seen.
Chandler is such a gorilla 🦍
More like ninja turtle.
Would Joe get in trouble if he said that about Ngannu?
I don’t think many people realize just how crazy it is that he exploded out of a fkn body triangle.
I still don’t fully know how he did it.
Serious question as a casual.. like did he choke chandler or what did a triangle do to chandler in that situation?
I forgot about that exchange. That was actually really impressive.
a lot of people seem to have forgot recently after pushing the "NO ONE goes in charles guard" narrative.
You gotta have the balls to follow Chucky into the ground if you wanna beat him
Y'know what? I think Michael Chandler is my favorite fighter right now. I guess I'll see you at the top boys!
I am 100% with you. I hope he is going to get paid with the PVP cuts he’ll get from building a big fan base
He's absolutely at the top of the must-see list. I thought he had no business with the title shot but what the hell do I know. Both he and Oliviera would have made excellent champs.
Me too. I’m a Dan Hooker fan so was gutted to see him lose again but after these last few fights I’m 100% a Chandler fan. Fun fighter and seems like a decent dude too.
He beat my favorite fighter tony but I still like him
No, say it correctly.
Chandler gorilla strength.
Isn't Chandler the best anti-grappler? Guy has never been submitted before.
He’s an amazing wrestler and trains with some of the best in MMA, has for years. He’s underrated even with how much hype he has currently. The dude was steamrolling Bellator for years before coming to the UFC.
chandler is a way better grappler than porier or justine
That's why I think Charles will have a tough time with Islam
Yeah he's a very well rounded fighter.
Both fighters were highly impressive in that fight.
He then went into Charles' guard and beat him up there for the rest of the round. Chandler's strength, explosiveness and awareness on the ground makes him virtually impossible to submit.
He def has a better chance to win a rematch than Dustin or Gaethje
The definition of “styles make fights”
How good is Tony for not getting finished?
That was toughness. His arm was almost broken bruh
Eddie Bravo would use to say that Tony is his most special student. Even gave him his personal belt.
Really really want to see him fight Islam
I’ve never been so excited to see grappling in my life
I’d argue that Charles is also getting better every fight.
i mean its only 2 fights ago and just over 1 year. i get it people don't know bout chandlers grappling but he's a damn good grappler and head and shoulders above justin and dustin.
Yeah, maybe not in terms of actual skills acquired but I feel like his confidence in big moments has obviously gone up which plays a factor at this level
Chandler is built different. Unfortunately he feed off the crowd too much
I think this will get him in trouble a lot but at the same time get him some impressive wins like Michael Pereira. Dude has lots of losses but I still tune in to watch him submit some guy with twister while doing a backflip
Great hand fighting and crazy explosive strength. Chandler is a great grappler
Chandler is a fuckin 155 lbs rottweiler, insane grip and explosive strength. The way he bull rushed Tony and slammed him was amazing.
Chandler look very strong
The way he powered out from that grip is just unreal
This dude is the most explosive 155er ever. Change my mind. That kick on tony, escaping a back packed olives, right hand vs pitbull. So clean and fire.
See you at the top!
chandler has serious power. And I think it helps that his neck is very short because of his build. It looks nearly impossible to choke him out. The best chance charles had is tko him and he made it. Both mans are crazy
idk man justinn gaethje is soooo over rated. from the damn leg kicks to the supposed great wrestling defense.
I dont know about that. Maybe a little overrated. Regardless, every fight he is in is fantastic so im thankful.
i was surpised by how easily oliveira avoided gaethje's leg kicks. oliveira has great reflexes.
He's probably got a better shot than the others at being champ, and I say this as a Dustin fan.
I legit think Chandler tried going for a Sharpshooter. Lol.
CHAD CHANDLER
I believe Chandler would win a rematch but it’s gonna be close and Charles would win if chandler gets caught again
as someone who's seen pre ufc chandler , to say i was shocked when he actually shot a TD on tony instead of striking a loosing battle would be an understatement! so maybe he's willing to turn of his showman caveman brain off.
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Definitely wanna see a rematch between these two.
2 on 1 wrist control. No one ever got RNC'd with one arm.
Plenty of people have actually 🤣
Chandler's performance against Charles is aging better the more we see Charles fighting against the top guys.
Really brings home just how atrocious Justin’s grappling defense is
Does it? Or does it show how good Chandler's is?
Chandler's loss has definitely aged well, if he gets a rematch and is a little more patient (haha!)...
This is the best post I've seen since joining this sub. OP is IMHO correct, after watching olivera's wake of destruction, seeing that Chandler can defend against that crazy good ju jitsu has me questioning that if Chandler had fought a more tactful, measured fight (rather than swinging for the fences, which is admittedly awesome to watch) that he could've gone further than he did w Charles. I'm hoping there's a rematch in the future
He was a champion at one. Gotta put respect on his name
With the body triangle too. Pretty crazy
But has he submitted Rustin or Bustin?
And the fact that he still got finished lol
wild strong
Chandler the war hamster
would it be wrong to think that chandler is better than gaethje? i feel like he just didn’t approach their fight looking for a win… does that make sense or am i being delusional
he's probably a better more well rounded martial artist
Think it’s more the massive hook Gaethje took before tbh
Oliveira beat Dustin with relative ease and made Justin look like an amateur. It was not the longest, but I think this was the most competitive of his title fights.
And people think Charles would beat Khabib on the ground 😂
your prophet ran because he knew that he couldn't sniff Oliveira balls as easy as any other striker lmao
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Khabib ? Is that you
Why is this even disputed. Downvote me all you want. I love Tony but the Dan Hooker and Bobby Green wins alone are more impressive than the Tony win and getting dropped in the process
Now show the second round.
Thanks for highlighting this. Crazy sequence
Pettis escaped Oliveras back control and submitted him.
And so calm too! Never looked flustered. Chandler is a great fighter. I feel he needs a rematch with Justin
When I watched this fight I didn’t really care for either fighter. Now I absolutely love both of them. They are just so fun to watch.
That was a nice back and forth exchange , I just keep being impressed by olivera and chandler fits in perfect with the ufc roster,he’s legit
And people have the audacity to say that he's not a top 5 LW.
He did what paul felder did, he fought on the ground, showing charlie olives hes not afraid of his ground game meanwhile justin and dustin avoided it at all costs, showing charlie olives they are afraid boosting his confidence and forcing the sub strat.
His grappling is also very underrated
Chandler smashes people, if only he had a little stronger of a chin but that shot put out Justin too. Only one of the three that wasn’t dazed by Charles standup was Dustin.
Jits doesn't work as well on short stocky dudes
People forgot about Pettis? Pettis is impossible to get back control of, I think Lamas escaped too although he got saved by the bell at one point.
Paul Felder laid out the blue print to beat Oliveira 5 years ago. Everyone is too afraid to go to the ground with him.
Chicken and rice is the best defense.
Can't believe Sal D'Amato scored this a 10-8 for Chandler
Chandler is strong AF and a great wrestler. It was his power n explosiveness that abled him to escape but it doesnt matter… 🫒 is too damn good. If Islam cant neutralize him noone will
Chandler vs Poirier is the fight to make - change my mind
brilliant wrist control.
Because every movement Chandler makes is akin to that of an explosive bomb
Chandler has explosive movement that Justin and Dustin just don't have.
I swear if he makes a few adjustments and keeps a cool head he could be champion.
What’s crazy is that Charle’s has been submitted men in the UFC since he was 20
The only reason he was able to, is because its the middle of the octagon and he had space. The other two were caught between Charles and the cage
Chandler is a total badass and an incredibly fun fighter to watch and would love to see him fight charles again at some point
Justin has the worst bjj at lightweight. Dustin was battered and tired.
The knees broke dustin
The fact that this guy is fighting in the UFC makes me happy.
Let's not forget either Chandler is a 10th planet BJJ black belt, that definitely is a great counter to Charles ground game.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is how important the hip control is in these types of clips. Notice chandler in the scramble is always trying to flatten Charles hips. Notice how when chandler gets out he can't dove in because Charles floats his hips off the mat. The reason for this and why wrestlers are super dangerous to BJJ players, they need their hips to secure position to perform the sub. Chandler flattened and stretched Charles back control so he would only have to fight the hand and to make room to escape. Similarly Charles knows if chandler dives in his guard and his hips are flat it's game over.
Now imagine Khabib
Everybody saw this fight go back and forth and thought they were two decent guys waiting to be beaten by justin and dustin. Truth is, chandler was a nightmare match up for olivera
Between Chandler and Olivera, who do you guys think would give Khabib a tougher time? I think both would do substantially better than Justin and Dustin, but what do I know🤷♂️
I wanna see Islam vs Charles so bad
It's because he's always trying to control one of olives hands at all times, very hard to sink in a choke 1 handed.
Honestly the fact that he was able to stand up from the ground with another person on him is impressive enough
Yeah from all the Oliveira fights I've seen Chandler definitely gave him the most work.
These guys almost scrapped back stage before the fight too, there was a ton of animosity.
Is it legal to slam forward when a persons on you back?
First minute of the fight...
That gilly was soooo tight
He's an inspiration. He doesn't quit, he goes 100%, and he was still able to hold off the post-knockout followups against Tony, and he adopts kids. Seems like a great dude.
Chandler was the only one out of them that didn’t get rocked before his back was taken
I like Chandler and all, but how is getting knocked out more impressive than being choked?
I think the height difference plays a factor but also Chandler is extremely explosive.
Dustin gave up and Justin was rocked from 15 secs in
And he jumped a really nice guillotine, granted it didn’t work, but holy shit if he didn’t snatch Charles up out of nowhere.
Makes me interested in seeing Volk vs Oliveira
Chandler is great at reversals on the ground. He's done the 2 on 1 wrist control to roll out of back mount and into top position a lot in his career. He's got a pretty sick reversal for a crucifix too. Think he did it against Benson Henderson, off the top of my head
Don’t say it, don’t say it, don’t say it…..
Chandler is a different type of athlete
He’s just insanely explosive and strong for 155
It’s even more impressive that Oliveria TKO’s Chandler, he beat him at his own game instead.
Looking back at it now, the matchmakers were so right with this fight
Couldn’t sub Tony either 🥲
Only one out of the 3 to get knocked out tho
What a great exchange.
Explosive AF!!!!
Really impressive how he lost that fight
Seems like he’s pulling Chandler’s glove here like he did to Poirier too.
Yup
Charles let him out dude
If you don’t love Mike Chandler, you don’t understand MMA.