what are the nations middle-left and middle-right?

  1. The Celtic league and what are considered Celtic nations has always been interesting to me because of the inconsistencies.

  2. To add to your point regairding the Scottish Lowlands, I'm from Northumberland. So I grew up north of Hadrian's Wall, went across the border for holidays, the lot.

  3. If Galicia is included, then so should Portugal. We literally came from Galicia lol. Besides, a big portion of Iberia used to be full of Celtic tribes

  4. As the modern concept of nation and nationalism was born in the 18th-19th centuries, the concept of ethnonationalism is very relative. You can't talk about which "ethnic group" is the representative one of a modern nation if you want to pick only ancient history peoples. See Spain as an example: when Spanish nationalism was being created, Spain chose the Goths as the parent ethnic group of the nation, when the Romans and the Moors were much more time and had more influence in the territory which is nowadays the Spanish State. This is because they wanted to sell the myth of a nation forged against Islam (together with the Reconquista and all that jazz). In consequence, Galician regionalists chose the Celts to separate themselves from that Gothic idea of Spain. But this is also true for the Scottish nationalism, for example.

  5. In scotlands case you're confusing Gaelic with Celtic, Scots speakers are still of brythonic celtic origin, they're just not the same as the gaelic settlers

  6. The Lowlands has historically spoken Gaelic before, if you look at a language map of Scotland during the 15th Century you will see a lot of the lowlands is dominated by Gaelic.

  7. It is not just a matter of language but also heritage and traditions which are pretty much present in many of those places to these days.

  8. The Kingdom of Alba formed with a Gaelic speaking aristocracy and Gaelic was the dominant language of Scotland for at least a couple of centuries. Gaelic was spoken at one point across almost all of modern Scotland apart from the northern isles and some of the southernmost parts of the country. It makes perfect sense for Scotland to be included because it's a country with a living Celtic language which has massively impacted its culture, history and political development.

  9. in my and most people's opinion, the actually celtic nations are the irish, scots, welsh, bretons, manx and cornish

  10. I like to include Alba nuadh and Y wladfa as they still have 1.5K gadhlig/Welsh speakers whoch is about as many speakers as cornish speakers

  11. Celtic nations flag, but I don't think i've ever seen one with Asturias and/or Galicia. Are they both considered celtic nations?

  12. I went to a Pan-Celtic festival in Ireland, and it was super cool. I think that the Welsh singers were the best, but the Irish were the better drinkers.

  13. It’s the Celtic flag, representing the last holdouts of the ancient culture. Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Mann, Breton, Cornwall, and your queries Galicia and Asturias

  14. Top Left is Bretagne... All these flags are of Celtic nations or nations that share a common Celtic heritage, that goes back to the Bronze age or older. Cornwall,Brittany,Wales,Scotland,Ireland, Manx, Galicia, I've missed at least one more or possibly two.

  15. Left Galicia and right is Asturias, two regions in the northeast of Spain. All the flags in in the picture are from places with celtic heritage.

  16. I'll dare to say that if Galicia and Asturias are included so should be Portugal. Northern Portuga had many Celtic settlements. Also, in Algarve there was a Celtic tribe (known as Conios) so they were possibly in other parts of the country.

  17. English culture is not Celtic at all so why? Celtic influence is still clearly recognizable in Galicia and Asturias, even though unlike Élire etc.. the Celtic language died

  18. Why would someone count Galicia and Asturias as Celtic nations? Thats a lot of cope. I can assure not a single person in Galicia or Asturias identifies as Celtic

  19. Why would they? Ulster Scots speak a West Germanic language and are rooted in Anglo-Saxon culture.

  20. If they're including North-Western Spain, they should have included Portugal as well. The Gal literally comes from the Romans colonizing an area known as Gaelic Port. The Celto-Iberian tribes of the region left behind a lot of cultural traditions, especially in the North, and some words in Portuguese, as well as lots of ruins, that are still visible today, like Castros (towns), Dolmens, Menirs and Stone Circles.

  21. I agree with the basic ideas of celtic nations, and as a foreigner (but passionate on the topic, globally), I support them (no hate for England 🙏🏻), but the whole thing really needs to "get a grip" and stick to current reality. Otherwise northern Italy was celtic, part of Austria, slavic territories, Portugal etc. The nations are and should be 6: Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall and Mann.

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