To add to your point regairding the Scottish Lowlands, I'm from Northumberland. So I grew up north of Hadrian's Wall, went across the border for holidays, the lot.
As the modern concept of nation and nationalism was born in the 18th-19th centuries, the concept of ethnonationalism is very relative. You can't talk about which "ethnic group" is the representative one of a modern nation if you want to pick only ancient history peoples. See Spain as an example: when Spanish nationalism was being created, Spain chose the Goths as the parent ethnic group of the nation, when the Romans and the Moors were much more time and had more influence in the territory which is nowadays the Spanish State. This is because they wanted to sell the myth of a nation forged against Islam (together with the Reconquista and all that jazz). In consequence, Galician regionalists chose the Celts to separate themselves from that Gothic idea of Spain. But this is also true for the Scottish nationalism, for example.
In scotlands case you're confusing Gaelic with Celtic, Scots speakers are still of brythonic celtic origin, they're just not the same as the gaelic settlers
The Lowlands has historically spoken Gaelic before, if you look at a language map of Scotland during the 15th Century you will see a lot of the lowlands is dominated by Gaelic.
The Kingdom of Alba formed with a Gaelic speaking aristocracy and Gaelic was the dominant language of Scotland for at least a couple of centuries. Gaelic was spoken at one point across almost all of modern Scotland apart from the northern isles and some of the southernmost parts of the country. It makes perfect sense for Scotland to be included because it's a country with a living Celtic language which has massively impacted its culture, history and political development.
I went to a Pan-Celtic festival in Ireland, and it was super cool. I think that the Welsh singers were the best, but the Irish were the better drinkers.
It’s the Celtic flag, representing the last holdouts of the ancient culture. Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Mann, Breton, Cornwall, and your queries Galicia and Asturias
Top Left is Bretagne... All these flags are of Celtic nations or nations that share a common Celtic heritage, that goes back to the Bronze age or older. Cornwall,Brittany,Wales,Scotland,Ireland, Manx, Galicia, I've missed at least one more or possibly two.
I'll dare to say that if Galicia and Asturias are included so should be Portugal. Northern Portuga had many Celtic settlements. Also, in Algarve there was a Celtic tribe (known as Conios) so they were possibly in other parts of the country.
English culture is not Celtic at all so why? Celtic influence is still clearly recognizable in Galicia and Asturias, even though unlike Élire etc.. the Celtic language died
Why would someone count Galicia and Asturias as Celtic nations? Thats a lot of cope. I can assure not a single person in Galicia or Asturias identifies as Celtic
If they're including North-Western Spain, they should have included Portugal as well. The Gal literally comes from the Romans colonizing an area known as Gaelic Port. The Celto-Iberian tribes of the region left behind a lot of cultural traditions, especially in the North, and some words in Portuguese, as well as lots of ruins, that are still visible today, like Castros (towns), Dolmens, Menirs and Stone Circles.
I agree with the basic ideas of celtic nations, and as a foreigner (but passionate on the topic, globally), I support them (no hate for England 🙏🏻), but the whole thing really needs to "get a grip" and stick to current reality. Otherwise northern Italy was celtic, part of Austria, slavic territories, Portugal etc. The nations are and should be 6: Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall and Mann.
Left:
They have Gael descendance?
How did I not recognize the Galician flag lmao
Thought the left one was eu4 naxos
are they even celtic
Nice, I like the study who says British and Irish are actually coming from Basques
Naxos used to have the same flag as Galicia when it was still a independent state
Middle left is Galicia in Northern Spain, I think. Middle Right is Asturias, also in Northern Spain.
yes
Galicia middle left, Asturias middle right.
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What are your thoughts of Galicia and Asturias being represented in that flag as a Galician? Is accurate?
Whats the black one with the cross
Cornwall
Cornwall
Cornwall
Cornwall
Cornwall
Big ol’ Celtic flag.
Center symbol is called a triskelion
The Celtic league and what are considered Celtic nations has always been interesting to me because of the inconsistencies.
Celtic romanticism and its consequences.
To add to your point regairding the Scottish Lowlands, I'm from Northumberland. So I grew up north of Hadrian's Wall, went across the border for holidays, the lot.
If Galicia is included, then so should Portugal. We literally came from Galicia lol. Besides, a big portion of Iberia used to be full of Celtic tribes
As the modern concept of nation and nationalism was born in the 18th-19th centuries, the concept of ethnonationalism is very relative. You can't talk about which "ethnic group" is the representative one of a modern nation if you want to pick only ancient history peoples. See Spain as an example: when Spanish nationalism was being created, Spain chose the Goths as the parent ethnic group of the nation, when the Romans and the Moors were much more time and had more influence in the territory which is nowadays the Spanish State. This is because they wanted to sell the myth of a nation forged against Islam (together with the Reconquista and all that jazz). In consequence, Galician regionalists chose the Celts to separate themselves from that Gothic idea of Spain. But this is also true for the Scottish nationalism, for example.
In scotlands case you're confusing Gaelic with Celtic, Scots speakers are still of brythonic celtic origin, they're just not the same as the gaelic settlers
The Lowlands has historically spoken Gaelic before, if you look at a language map of Scotland during the 15th Century you will see a lot of the lowlands is dominated by Gaelic.
It is not just a matter of language but also heritage and traditions which are pretty much present in many of those places to these days.
Celticness is mostly imagined, but so are most ethnic identities.
The Kingdom of Alba formed with a Gaelic speaking aristocracy and Gaelic was the dominant language of Scotland for at least a couple of centuries. Gaelic was spoken at one point across almost all of modern Scotland apart from the northern isles and some of the southernmost parts of the country. It makes perfect sense for Scotland to be included because it's a country with a living Celtic language which has massively impacted its culture, history and political development.
in my and most people's opinion, the actually celtic nations are the irish, scots, welsh, bretons, manx and cornish
Pan-Celticism is a big LARP and always has been (like most pan-nationalism)
I like to include Alba nuadh and Y wladfa as they still have 1.5K gadhlig/Welsh speakers whoch is about as many speakers as cornish speakers
Being ethnically Celtic isn't the same as speaking a Celtic language.
Celtic nations flag, but I don't think i've ever seen one with Asturias and/or Galicia. Are they both considered celtic nations?
There is a study that states Celts that settled in the British Isles came from Galicia/Asturias.
I've got one with Galicia but not Asturias.
The areas in modern day Asturias and Galicia had a relatively large amount of brythonic refugees, kind of like Bretagne
Celtic nations
Galicia and Asturias.
What's the thing in the middle? I think I've seen it somewhere on my way to school.
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I went to a Pan-Celtic festival in Ireland, and it was super cool. I think that the Welsh singers were the best, but the Irish were the better drinkers.
It’s the Celtic flag, representing the last holdouts of the ancient culture. Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Mann, Breton, Cornwall, and your queries Galicia and Asturias
I've seen this question so many times on this community
That is a very cool flag though.
Top Left is Bretagne... All these flags are of Celtic nations or nations that share a common Celtic heritage, that goes back to the Bronze age or older. Cornwall,Brittany,Wales,Scotland,Ireland, Manx, Galicia, I've missed at least one more or possibly two.
Yermat
Galicia & Principality of Asturias. They're autonomies of Spain.
This is an interesting variation. I've never seen it with the celtiberian colors
Nice to see Asturias on there!
can anyone tell me what’s the flag on the top left and middle bottom?
brittany and cornwall
Brittany, Cornwall
galicia and asturias
Not sure but I do know this is a proposed United Celtic nations flag
What is this monstrosity
Middle right looks like Asturias
what’s that leg thing, too? top middle
Isle of Man
Its the flag of Galicia and Asturias.
Asturias & galicia
Celtic intensifies
Nice idea (sort of) but that flag is an absolute eyesore
Left Galicia and right is Asturias, two regions in the northeast of Spain. All the flags in in the picture are from places with celtic heritage.
I dont know much about vexilollogy, whats the top left and middle bottom?
Kernow/Cornwall and Breizh/Brittany.
Gonna say Galicia and Asturias, located in northern Iberia.
Galiza and Asturias.
Yous aren’t gonna like this but if you’re including Galicia and Asturias, you’ll have to include England as well.
I'll dare to say that if Galicia and Asturias are included so should be Portugal. Northern Portuga had many Celtic settlements. Also, in Algarve there was a Celtic tribe (known as Conios) so they were possibly in other parts of the country.
English culture is not Celtic at all so why? Celtic influence is still clearly recognizable in Galicia and Asturias, even though unlike Élire etc.. the Celtic language died
If Scotland is included. English have more celtic DNA than Scots
Perhaps with some modifications to show the uh...not quite existing anymore...of the history?
People have already given the answers but [here is a map] (
Mina terra Galiza!
Nosa terra queridiña !
Two of the places I’m from are on here 💀
Why would someone count Galicia and Asturias as Celtic nations? Thats a lot of cope. I can assure not a single person in Galicia or Asturias identifies as Celtic
you're very wrong lmfao
God that's cringe
Yet they STILL won't add Ulster-Scots/Northern Ireland representation
Why would they? Ulster Scots speak a West Germanic language and are rooted in Anglo-Saxon culture.
Ulster scots is not a Celtic language in the slightest?
what is this ridiculous flag omg someone pleas explain all of this to me
Celtic nations flag (the amount of nations may vary depending on the flag).
Two absolutely not Celtic nations.
Two absolutely Celtic non-nations
Hello benedictholland,
Galicia and Asturias, regions of Spain
If they're including North-Western Spain, they should have included Portugal as well. The Gal literally comes from the Romans colonizing an area known as Gaelic Port. The Celto-Iberian tribes of the region left behind a lot of cultural traditions, especially in the North, and some words in Portuguese, as well as lots of ruins, that are still visible today, like Castros (towns), Dolmens, Menirs and Stone Circles.
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Middle, Airbender
Starting from the top and going clockwise.
Fake Celtic countries
I agree with the basic ideas of celtic nations, and as a foreigner (but passionate on the topic, globally), I support them (no hate for England 🙏🏻), but the whole thing really needs to "get a grip" and stick to current reality. Otherwise northern Italy was celtic, part of Austria, slavic territories, Portugal etc. The nations are and should be 6: Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Brittany, Cornwall and Mann.
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They’re nations who aren’t even Celtic for some reason